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what is lurking in this hidden world

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around us

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surrounding us captivating us

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mysteries monsters

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or is it madness

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join us tonight as we explore the

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strange the unusual

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the unknown

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and good evening everyone welcome to

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arcane radio i'm sean the forkshot

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forker

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joined tonight as always by my good

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friend partner in crime the ever man

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over in phantoms and monsters

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mr launch trickler lon how are you

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okay been quite busy but i'm fine yes

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and of course our special correspondent

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sidekick

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uh investigator extraordinaire mr butch

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witkowski butch thanks for joining us

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tonight

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always a pleasure guys what a crazy day

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crazy week of course last week you

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couldn't make it due to stupid

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internet [\h__\h] and of course it hasn't

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just been happening to us

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our good friends over beyond the edge

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radio have been biting that same curse

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i think it's just we start talking the

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truth and we start getting shut down

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yeah well that's what happens that's

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nothing new for me

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no it's not uh you and your crazy

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stuff that comes your way all the time

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yeah i mean you know i

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it just it just never ends i swear to

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god

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i i just sent you a video from a cape

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i just i'm working on and oh

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it's it's nuts it's um you know our

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listeners

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often hear me say well i don't know what

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to make of that what the hell uh

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that's an honest reaction from elon uh

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it's uh if anybody knows what stigmata

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is this is pretty

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interesting i mean this this this this

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case

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may actually be something related that

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somehow i don't know i

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i'm you know i uh

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it kind of blew my mind though it's

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beyond my realm

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of experience uh i don't deal with this

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stuff folks

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i'm a bigfoot guy occasionally i dabble

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in uh

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ghosts and hauntings i don't mess around

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with whatever is going on

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with this individual and uh seeing it

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you know hearing about it is one thing

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seeing it happen

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is just a mind-blowing experience and

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i've only been sitting on this

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information for about 10 minutes

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and my mind welcome to my life man i

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mean you know

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but uh no i'm gonna get back to him

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after the show and we'll see what

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you know it's uh brett's brett's

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involved with it too so we're going to

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take care of this for him just something

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hey by the way we got a we got a

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formatting change coming up on the show

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maybe you want to explain to everybody

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uh sean or what we're gonna do

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yeah so in order to make the show

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uh more what you the listeners want

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we're not certain how it's going to work

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around us because it's true believe me

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it's been getting stranger and stranger

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you know again take a minute we talk

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regrets and condolences to the people

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over in london today with

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the terrible terrorist attack uh

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over in london at parliament just an

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uh i don't know guys you get tired of

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hearing this stuff on the news all the

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you know i i hope it doesn't get to the

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point where it gets mundane but

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it just keeps it just keeps happening

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you know i don't know but to bring some

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levity back to the program we had that

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what's been going on guys lon any

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strange stories that have come through

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any strange stories

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that's a stupid question if i've ever

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asked one uh what's going on this week

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that's piqued your interest

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well you know what i posted something

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and it's a it's a long account so i'm

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kind of paraphrased but i had a um

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i had a correspondence about a week ago

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but he had he actually was out in the

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woods near his home

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and he saw one of these glassine

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cloaking effect

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like creatures uh people that

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are familiar with the uh predator

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movies will know what i'm talking about

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and you know this isn't the first time

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this has happened i mean i've received a

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lot of reports over the years

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of this type of phenomena and uh

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this is a fairly interesting account

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uh he's looking for answers and

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if anybody who is out there in that

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area wants to give him a hand help him

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out or wants to talk to him

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you know just um contact me and i'll

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send your information over to him but he

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uh he had this

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um he had this encounter with this thing

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and uh i got some pictures of

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some things he took along with it so

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yeah like i said it's a real long

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you know he's got some other evidence as

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go over to the blog and read that it's

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it's an interesting it's an interesting

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yeah there's there's been all kinds of

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crazy stuff i you know

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what you know of course we're still

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working on this thing in lancaster

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i mean uh butch maybe you can

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give us any type of update or what

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you've been going through over there

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well i guess the biggest thing was you

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the entity or distortion whatever you

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was still there just in different

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that i had

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uh does not video or photographs so

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um i got a new floor which will video

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and photograph

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and i'm gonna go down there tomorrow as

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a matter of fact tomorrow night

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and see what i can get on video and

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it's going to give me i'm going to get

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into the building

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i've talked to the owner there and he's

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going to allow me into the building

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so i'm going to go into that barn and go

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through the barn from front to back

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and see if there's anything going on in

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just add it all up and probably make

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another good trip down there when the

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weather gets just a little bit warmer

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yeah because you never want to go back

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to front right

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right terrible

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[Music]

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yeah so you know that we're going

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through that now

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and uh of course i you know i'm always

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getting stuff but

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i did get one interesting account about

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a week ago

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that you know we didn't not sure last

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week so i didn't get a chance to talk

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about it but it was a

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it was a black eyed person black guy kid

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account pretty interesting though

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um this witness said i just read

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one of your black-eyed people stories

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and i thought i'd rate you about an

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experience i had

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uh one evening during the summer of

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2009 i went outside on my porch to smoke

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a cigarette

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it was it was still light out i live

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near rochester minnesota

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there's a small hill directly across the

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street from my house

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and i noticed two kids a young boy and

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girl walking up the hill

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they stopped and looked back at me but i

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got a bad feeling about them

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they were wearing dark blue vinyl

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windbreakers

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with hoods and as i looked closer i

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could see that their

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eyes were black they started to walk

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down the hill and come across the street

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walking directly towards me

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i was cordial and introduced myself to

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them they continued to advance towards

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me

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i was getting scared so i quickly went

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back into the house i asked my wife

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if she heard me talking to these kids

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she heard nothing so i just put it out

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of my mind

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so that evening it was quiet and my wife

346
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and i went to bed around 11 p.m

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after uh several minutes laying in bed i

348
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started to feel

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strange i look towards the window we

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have a one floor

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ranch style house and i saw the girls

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standing outside the window

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uh i freaked out and went to make sure

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the doors were bolted

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when i got to the kitchen door i could

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see the boys standing on the back porch

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i ran back to the bedroom and grabbed my

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45 automatic i just assumed

359
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that they were attempting to break in

360
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jesus by that time

361
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by that time i was extremely scared i

362
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went to pick up the telephone to call

363
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9-1-1

364
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but the next thing i remember i was

365
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waking up

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in bed the next morning oh god it was

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just

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awake

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and she looked at me and and said where

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did you go

371
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last night i told her i didn't go

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anywhere

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she said that she heard the back door

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closed around midnight

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and that she went to see what was going

376
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on she said that she couldn't find me

377
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i told her what had happened and she

378
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thought i was hiding something from her

379
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i still don't know what happened i've

380
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read about lost time and alien induction

381
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but i always believed it was bunk i i

382
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still don't really believe it

383
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were these black-eyed kids aliens by the

384
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way i no longer smoke

385
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i just don't have the urge anymore why

386
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i have no idea that's a great way to

387
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quit

388
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i almost smoked i smoked for almost 30

389
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years

390
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cold turkey yeah cold black-eyed

391
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children

392
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that's an interesting one

393
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wow well thankfully he didn't decide to

394
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you know i always say if i come across

395
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one of these things i'm going to put him

396
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like a football

397
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uh he could have john wayne their asses

398
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they could have been

399
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axed it's terrible but where did i

400
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go was he drinking was he partaking a

401
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little bit in a little

402
00:15:39,430 --> 00:15:38,079
grain i just assumed he may have been um

403
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abducted somehow

404
00:15:44,870 --> 00:15:43,040
well or they did something to him that

405
00:15:45,269 --> 00:15:44,880
he just doesn't remember what the timer

406
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is

407
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wake up clothed was he well i mean he

408
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was already in bed he had run downstairs

409
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he was i guess in his pajamas and stuff

410
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or whatever but

411
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i mean he just woke up in bed the next

412
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morning was six o'clock

413
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he missed it was almost six hours i

414
00:16:02,949 --> 00:16:01,360
believe

415
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so i don't know i don't know what the

416
00:16:05,829 --> 00:16:04,399
hell happened

417
00:16:08,389 --> 00:16:05,839
some things that have made me lose six

418
00:16:09,990 --> 00:16:08,399
hours before i'm just there weren't any

419
00:16:11,670 --> 00:16:10,000
black eyed children involved and no

420
00:16:15,749 --> 00:16:11,680
children involved period

421
00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:15,759
but i'm telling you what this is i uh

422
00:16:18,870 --> 00:16:17,920
they just keep getting weirder keep

423
00:16:21,749 --> 00:16:18,880
getting weird

424
00:16:22,389 --> 00:16:21,759
that was a strange one um i also had

425
00:16:27,990 --> 00:16:22,399
something

426
00:16:32,069 --> 00:16:30,710
kind of relates to stan gordon too um

427
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he's not an alien is he because i'm

428
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quitting

429
00:16:37,829 --> 00:16:36,480
no i'm not done i'm out uh this witness

430
00:16:39,509 --> 00:16:37,839
said i had been listening to an

431
00:16:41,910 --> 00:16:39,519
interview you had conducted with stan

432
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gordon on arcane radio

433
00:16:46,150 --> 00:16:44,320
i had an incident happen about eight

434
00:16:47,829 --> 00:16:46,160
years ago when i was living in shasta

435
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county california

436
00:16:51,110 --> 00:16:50,240
i figured you'd be interested in reading

437
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it so

438
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one evening while i was watching

439
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television in my living room i noticed a

440
00:17:01,030 --> 00:16:57,920
bright red flash

441
00:17:03,670 --> 00:17:01,040
come through the window nearest me now

442
00:17:05,750 --> 00:17:03,680
the flash came from my backyard i looked

443
00:17:09,590 --> 00:17:05,760
outside and was shocked to see

444
00:17:12,710 --> 00:17:09,600
what appeared to be a flat circular

445
00:17:15,669 --> 00:17:12,720
object hovering then landing in the

446
00:17:17,029 --> 00:17:15,679
field behind my garage

447
00:17:18,870 --> 00:17:17,039
there were blue and white lights

448
00:17:21,909 --> 00:17:18,880
flashing intermittently

449
00:17:25,429 --> 00:17:21,919
and around i mean intermittingly

450
00:17:28,710 --> 00:17:25,439
around the object it's a patriotic one

451
00:17:31,270 --> 00:17:28,720
yeah there was a mist or

452
00:17:33,270 --> 00:17:31,280
smoke rising from it i first thought it

453
00:17:34,310 --> 00:17:33,280
might be a large helicopter but it was

454
00:17:36,630 --> 00:17:34,320
silent

455
00:17:40,630 --> 00:17:36,640
after a few seconds the object instantly

456
00:17:42,630 --> 00:17:40,640
vanished into another bright flash

457
00:17:44,390 --> 00:17:42,640
it stunned me and left me warning what i

458
00:17:46,230 --> 00:17:44,400
just witnessed

459
00:17:49,110 --> 00:17:46,240
i waited for a few minutes then i went

460
00:17:51,990 --> 00:17:49,120
outside with a spotlight to take a look

461
00:17:53,590 --> 00:17:52,000
i am single so i was alone there there

462
00:17:54,789 --> 00:17:53,600
are a few houses on the other side of

463
00:17:56,870 --> 00:17:54,799
the field

464
00:17:58,870 --> 00:17:56,880
but the distance to the nearest property

465
00:18:00,470 --> 00:17:58,880
is about a quarter mile

466
00:18:02,230 --> 00:18:00,480
i didn't see any other people

467
00:18:03,990 --> 00:18:02,240
investigating the lights there was

468
00:18:05,430 --> 00:18:04,000
nothing to indicate that the object had

469
00:18:07,750 --> 00:18:05,440
landed in the field

470
00:18:09,990 --> 00:18:07,760
so i decided to wait and look some more

471
00:18:11,990 --> 00:18:10,000
the next day

472
00:18:14,070 --> 00:18:12,000
i didn't find any evidence the next

473
00:18:16,470 --> 00:18:14,080
morning i estimated that the object had

474
00:18:19,750 --> 00:18:16,480
been around 50 or so feet

475
00:18:20,789 --> 00:18:19,760
in diameter then night that night

476
00:18:23,990 --> 00:18:20,799
something happened that

477
00:18:25,750 --> 00:18:24,000
changed my belief in the unknown

478
00:18:27,909 --> 00:18:25,760
i was sitting in my living room watching

479
00:18:31,430 --> 00:18:27,919
tv again about

480
00:18:33,669 --> 00:18:31,440
9 30 pm and once again i was stunned by

481
00:18:35,430 --> 00:18:33,679
another bright red flash coming from the

482
00:18:37,270 --> 00:18:35,440
backyard

483
00:18:39,029 --> 00:18:37,280
i immediately got up from my chair and

484
00:18:41,270 --> 00:18:39,039
looked out the window

485
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there was a full moon light so i noticed

486
00:18:45,830 --> 00:18:43,440
that in the same location

487
00:18:47,110 --> 00:18:45,840
that i saw the object land the night

488
00:18:50,150 --> 00:18:47,120
before

489
00:18:52,230 --> 00:18:50,160
there was something moving around i

490
00:18:54,830 --> 00:18:52,240
didn't know what to think or what to do

491
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i wondered if i could should call the

492
00:18:59,270 --> 00:18:56,080
authorities

493
00:19:01,029 --> 00:18:59,280
but then i've been i'd tell them about

494
00:19:03,669 --> 00:19:01,039
flash of light and what i had witnessed

495
00:19:06,230 --> 00:19:03,679
the previous night

496
00:19:08,549 --> 00:19:06,240
i just sat there with the lights and

497
00:19:10,870 --> 00:19:08,559
television off for several minutes

498
00:19:12,549 --> 00:19:10,880
i then started to hear dogs barking in

499
00:19:14,630 --> 00:19:12,559
the distance

500
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then suddenly i heard something hit the

501
00:19:19,590 --> 00:19:16,240
side of the garage

502
00:19:22,630 --> 00:19:19,600
and then a deep groaning sound

503
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i set a sector quietly and when i saw a

504
00:19:27,270 --> 00:19:25,600
faint shadow move across the window

505
00:19:30,070 --> 00:19:27,280
the wind was about seven foot from the

506
00:19:32,070 --> 00:19:30,080
ground but the shadow completely blacked

507
00:19:33,590 --> 00:19:32,080
out any light

508
00:19:36,390 --> 00:19:33,600
i was moving toward the front of the

509
00:19:39,590 --> 00:19:36,400
house i got up and looked out the dining

510
00:19:42,710 --> 00:19:39,600
room window there was a huge hairy

511
00:19:44,630 --> 00:19:42,720
creature eliminated by the light on the

512
00:19:47,110 --> 00:19:44,640
utility pole

513
00:19:49,909 --> 00:19:47,120
it must have been eight to nine foot in

514
00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:49,919
height and a massive body

515
00:19:54,310 --> 00:19:52,480
this had to be a bigfoot as i continued

516
00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:54,320
to watch this creature

517
00:19:58,549 --> 00:19:56,320
it walked away from my property then

518
00:20:00,950 --> 00:19:58,559
into the jason field

519
00:20:02,950 --> 00:20:00,960
i went upstairs and sat at my bedroom

520
00:20:04,710 --> 00:20:02,960
window just waiting to see if it reached

521
00:20:06,549 --> 00:20:04,720
a return

522
00:20:08,630 --> 00:20:06,559
the next morning i walked around my

523
00:20:10,950 --> 00:20:08,640
property looking for tracks

524
00:20:12,630 --> 00:20:10,960
i did find an indentation in the ground

525
00:20:16,390 --> 00:20:12,640
that measured 15 inches long

526
00:20:19,510 --> 00:20:16,400
and six inches across but i'm

527
00:20:21,350 --> 00:20:19,520
not sure if it had been for the creature

528
00:20:24,149 --> 00:20:21,360
i didn't find anything unusual other

529
00:20:27,350 --> 00:20:24,159
than a cinder block laying by the garage

530
00:20:29,350 --> 00:20:27,360
it had been brought there

531
00:20:31,669 --> 00:20:29,360
i have only told a few friends about the

532
00:20:39,029 --> 00:20:31,679
incident i wonder if the bigfoot had

533
00:20:43,830 --> 00:20:41,029
well that's something else isn't it

534
00:20:46,830 --> 00:20:43,840
patriotic ufo

535
00:20:48,070 --> 00:20:46,840
dropped off bigfoot all kinds of weird

536
00:20:50,230 --> 00:20:48,080
stuff

537
00:20:52,310 --> 00:20:50,240
well you know actually that's the i

538
00:20:53,750 --> 00:20:52,320
believe that may be the first account

539
00:20:56,870 --> 00:20:53,760
i've ever

540
00:21:00,070 --> 00:20:56,880
had other than that habituation

541
00:21:03,750 --> 00:21:00,080
incident i had up in nova scotia

542
00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:03,760
where a bigfoot was related to some type

543
00:21:06,549 --> 00:21:05,760
of ufo or some type of craft or

544
00:21:09,909 --> 00:21:06,559
something like that

545
00:21:11,830 --> 00:21:09,919
you know as much as they're associated i

546
00:21:13,270 --> 00:21:11,840
haven't received a lot of ports reports

547
00:21:15,590 --> 00:21:13,280
like that over the years

548
00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:15,600
uh i know you really haven't besides

549
00:21:20,710 --> 00:21:17,200
like you set up a nova sco

550
00:21:21,510 --> 00:21:20,720
nova scotia uh butch what about you what

551
00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:21,520
have you

552
00:21:28,549 --> 00:21:25,600
you've had any reports never

553
00:21:28,950 --> 00:21:28,559
so is it that common or do we really

554
00:21:32,149 --> 00:21:28,960
think

555
00:21:36,310 --> 00:21:32,159
that some of these reports

556
00:21:39,190 --> 00:21:36,320
with a ufo bigfoot activity

557
00:21:40,470 --> 00:21:39,200
are they more in the minds of the

558
00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:40,480
witnesses or do you think there's

559
00:21:47,110 --> 00:21:45,270
i don't know i don't know either it's

560
00:21:47,590 --> 00:21:47,120
pretty vivid i don't know if this thing

561
00:21:48,950 --> 00:21:47,600
had

562
00:21:50,630 --> 00:21:48,960
dropped him off or it was an

563
00:21:52,070 --> 00:21:50,640
interdimensional thing if there was a

564
00:21:53,750 --> 00:21:52,080
portal there

565
00:21:55,510 --> 00:21:53,760
where both objects had come in

566
00:21:56,390 --> 00:21:55,520
subsequent nights i don't know what

567
00:21:59,669 --> 00:21:56,400
happened

568
00:22:00,710 --> 00:21:59,679
you know but i mean butch um stan has

569
00:22:03,430 --> 00:22:00,720
talked about

570
00:22:05,029 --> 00:22:03,440
this for years now uh he was getting

571
00:22:06,789 --> 00:22:05,039
he's been getting had been getting all

572
00:22:08,710 --> 00:22:06,799
those reports and i guess most of them

573
00:22:11,830 --> 00:22:08,720
from the 73 flap

574
00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:11,840
yeah but but you know

575
00:22:17,029 --> 00:22:15,440
he has had reported sightings

576
00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:17,039
where there may have been a correlation

577
00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:20,000
between bigfoot and ufo but

578
00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:23,520
i i i don't know if this i do believe

579
00:22:25,990 --> 00:22:25,120
this may have been the first one i have

580
00:22:30,070 --> 00:22:26,000
received from

581
00:22:32,070 --> 00:22:30,080
uh uh you know from just a witness

582
00:22:34,630 --> 00:22:32,080
but either people are really

583
00:22:37,350 --> 00:22:34,640
uncomfortable reporting that today

584
00:22:40,070 --> 00:22:37,360
yeah it's not as common as we think or

585
00:22:42,549 --> 00:22:40,080
the weed was really good in 73.

586
00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:42,559
well that may be true too like i had a

587
00:22:44,710 --> 00:22:43,919
butcher's snickering in the background

588
00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:44,720
we just don't know

589
00:22:48,950 --> 00:22:47,679
right like if i remember from 73 the

590
00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:48,960
weed wasn't really that good

591
00:22:52,230 --> 00:22:50,640
there's probably other things but uh

592
00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:52,240
yeah not that we advocate those things

593
00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:52,799
here on our

594
00:22:57,029 --> 00:22:54,960
radio we are pretty straight edge show

595
00:23:00,070 --> 00:22:57,039
with the exception of some

596
00:23:02,870 --> 00:23:00,080
liquid and vibes but we digress

597
00:23:04,630 --> 00:23:02,880
it's some weird [\h__\h] going on and i

598
00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:04,640
can't explain it i'm at this point in my

599
00:23:07,990 --> 00:23:06,400
life i'm not even trying to explain it i

600
00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:08,000
collect the information as it comes

601
00:23:11,510 --> 00:23:09,840
in you collect the information that

602
00:23:13,029 --> 00:23:11,520
comes in we investigate it and it is

603
00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:13,039
what it is because you know what guys at

604
00:23:16,630 --> 00:23:14,080
the end of the day

605
00:23:18,470 --> 00:23:16,640
we're not going to change anybody's mind

606
00:23:20,149 --> 00:23:18,480
i think we're past that stage where

607
00:23:21,029 --> 00:23:20,159
we're trying to convince people that

608
00:23:22,870 --> 00:23:21,039
there's connections

609
00:23:24,630 --> 00:23:22,880
i don't know if there's one i'm not

610
00:23:26,230 --> 00:23:24,640
trying to convince myself

611
00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:26,240
all i know is that these people see

612
00:23:31,190 --> 00:23:28,240
stuff

613
00:23:32,710 --> 00:23:31,200
they report it we do our due diligence

614
00:23:34,390 --> 00:23:32,720
there it is we leave it out for you in

615
00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:34,400
the court of public opinion

616
00:23:38,710 --> 00:23:37,600
to digest we add our opinions on what we

617
00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:38,720
feel

618
00:23:42,390 --> 00:23:40,640
and that's where at because unless we

619
00:23:43,510 --> 00:23:42,400
were there with all of butch's gadgets

620
00:23:45,029 --> 00:23:43,520
and gizmos

621
00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:45,039
there's not much evidence to collect

622
00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:48,480
from somebody sending in a story right

623
00:23:51,590 --> 00:23:50,159
i mean the rabbit hole isn't that deep

624
00:23:55,110 --> 00:23:51,600
it hurts when we fall in

625
00:23:59,269 --> 00:23:55,120
no and like i fall quite a bit um

626
00:24:02,710 --> 00:23:59,279
you know i uh you know

627
00:24:05,350 --> 00:24:02,720
those were two unique stories and uh

628
00:24:06,630 --> 00:24:05,360
our accounts like i hate home stories

629
00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:06,640
accounts but

630
00:24:09,830 --> 00:24:08,320
yeah i mean not that yeah i guess i know

631
00:24:10,630 --> 00:24:09,840
what you mean stories does sound a

632
00:24:13,909 --> 00:24:10,640
little

633
00:24:15,430 --> 00:24:13,919
fabricated the accounts uh

634
00:24:17,269 --> 00:24:15,440
will be a little bit more politically

635
00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:17,279
correct you know

636
00:24:21,110 --> 00:24:19,520
like i've said for years you know you

637
00:24:23,750 --> 00:24:21,120
know when you talk to these people

638
00:24:25,669 --> 00:24:23,760
it's like oh man you know these people

639
00:24:27,190 --> 00:24:25,679
definitely saw something

640
00:24:29,110 --> 00:24:27,200
i mean then that something something

641
00:24:31,269 --> 00:24:29,120
happened they they don't know

642
00:24:32,230 --> 00:24:31,279
they may not not understand what they

643
00:24:36,390 --> 00:24:32,240
saw but

644
00:24:37,990 --> 00:24:36,400
you know they saw something and uh

645
00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:38,000
or witnessed something or something

646
00:24:41,990 --> 00:24:40,320
happened to them

647
00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:42,000
and who are we to say these people

648
00:24:45,190 --> 00:24:43,840
aren't experiencing these things i mean

649
00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:45,200
and it sounds like i'm poking a little

650
00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:47,520
fun at it i'm i am poking a little bit

651
00:24:50,310 --> 00:24:49,360
fun at it tonight because these are some

652
00:24:51,909 --> 00:24:50,320
pretty

653
00:24:53,350 --> 00:24:51,919
uh you know aside from the black eyed

654
00:24:56,950 --> 00:24:53,360
children and this

655
00:24:59,029 --> 00:24:56,960
uh patriotic ufo and bigfoot uh

656
00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:59,039
it's they're not really common reports

657
00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:00,400
that you get and they're not common

658
00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:03,440
things i read you know the reports i get

659
00:25:09,269 --> 00:25:06,640
guys are very

660
00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:09,279
momentary fleeting citing reports or

661
00:25:12,310 --> 00:25:10,080
experiences

662
00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:12,320
they're nothing usually of the what i

663
00:25:15,750 --> 00:25:14,000
would consider supernatural or

664
00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:15,760
uber paranormal you know they're just

665
00:25:21,830 --> 00:25:18,080
very basic run-of-the-mill every day

666
00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:21,840
what i assumed to be a biological type

667
00:25:27,510 --> 00:25:24,960
being um and with the dogman stuff we've

668
00:25:28,870 --> 00:25:27,520
been getting you know

669
00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:28,880
some of these reports when we get them

670
00:25:31,190 --> 00:25:30,320
are a little bit exciting to read and

671
00:25:33,430 --> 00:25:31,200
yeah they

672
00:25:35,269 --> 00:25:33,440
do kind of ding my [\h__\h] meter a

673
00:25:37,669 --> 00:25:35,279
little bit but

674
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:37,679
who am i to know and i just like talking

675
00:25:40,950 --> 00:25:38,880
about them and their fun story

676
00:25:42,630 --> 00:25:40,960
they're fun accounts aren't they they

677
00:25:43,909 --> 00:25:42,640
they are uh

678
00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:43,919
i mean i guess they're not fun if you

679
00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:45,360
experience it but they're fun to talk

680
00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:47,520
about

681
00:25:52,789 --> 00:25:50,480
yeah i mean you know i i deeply

682
00:25:54,310 --> 00:25:52,799
appreciate when people

683
00:25:56,470 --> 00:25:54,320
and i guess it does take courage

684
00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:56,480
sometimes when they report this stuff to

685
00:26:01,830 --> 00:25:57,279
me and uh

686
00:26:04,149 --> 00:26:01,840
it does um keep it up folks

687
00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:04,159
yeah really so again putting it there

688
00:26:07,590 --> 00:26:04,960
it's not

689
00:26:08,950 --> 00:26:07,600
making fun of some of these reports are

690
00:26:11,190 --> 00:26:08,960
really strange

691
00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:11,200
and they make me chuckle a little bit

692
00:26:15,750 --> 00:26:12,640
but at the same time

693
00:26:16,390 --> 00:26:15,760
i chuckle at inappropriate times i've

694
00:26:19,669 --> 00:26:16,400
been known to

695
00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:19,679
giggle at a funeral so it's oh

696
00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:22,799
god it's how i deal with weird stuff

697
00:26:27,909 --> 00:26:25,840
i'm sorry it happens

698
00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:27,919
yeah is butch still alive or did he just

699
00:26:30,789 --> 00:26:28,960
hang up and check

700
00:26:32,630 --> 00:26:30,799
he's going there with you guys we're

701
00:26:35,990 --> 00:26:32,640
finished it's over picturing you

702
00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:36,000
at the funeral laughing your ass off in

703
00:26:38,789 --> 00:26:37,039
the front row

704
00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:38,799
butch is actually picturing me at a

705
00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:40,080
funeral

706
00:26:44,549 --> 00:26:42,960
looking for a buffet is what he's doing

707
00:26:46,549 --> 00:26:44,559
you know i actually went to a funeral

708
00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:46,559
one time this is new this is no lie i

709
00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:48,159
went through you know one time

710
00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:49,840
and one of the pallbearers was just

711
00:26:55,430 --> 00:26:52,080
smiling his ass off the whole time

712
00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:55,440
he was they were lifting that casket

713
00:26:58,870 --> 00:26:55,919
through the

714
00:26:59,590 --> 00:26:58,880
to the gravesite i i never i never will

715
00:27:01,990 --> 00:26:59,600
forget that

716
00:27:02,870 --> 00:27:02,000
i don't know who this guy was was it me

717
00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:02,880
i got a story for you

718
00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:05,760
uh there's a funeral i went to with uh

719
00:27:10,710 --> 00:27:08,480
somebody i worked with so

720
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:10,720
and uh i don't know who this guy was but

721
00:27:13,909 --> 00:27:12,240
man he was smiling

722
00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:13,919
i don't know if he got an inheritance or

723
00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:16,640
what he got boy he was a happy guy

724
00:27:20,870 --> 00:27:20,080
i was a funeral for a family friends of

725
00:27:24,070 --> 00:27:20,880
our family

726
00:27:25,830 --> 00:27:24,080
i was a pallbearer and she was a little

727
00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:25,840
old lady but we picked up that casket

728
00:27:28,389 --> 00:27:27,440
and i swear to god it weighed a thousand

729
00:27:31,269 --> 00:27:28,399
pounds

730
00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:31,279
and everybody in the front row everybody

731
00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:33,120
in the front could audibly hear me

732
00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:36,720
say holy [\h__\h] as i picked it up it was

733
00:27:40,149 --> 00:27:38,880
heavy it was the first time i was ever a

734
00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:40,159
pallbearer and i was like

735
00:27:46,710 --> 00:27:43,679
holy [\h__\h] you know it's funny that when

736
00:27:50,470 --> 00:27:46,720
you're saying that i was at a um

737
00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:50,480
i was paul bear for a funeral of uh

738
00:27:57,029 --> 00:27:54,399
a guy used to work with and uh

739
00:27:59,190 --> 00:27:57,039
it was there were eight of us and we

740
00:28:00,310 --> 00:27:59,200
went to pick that casket up and i swear

741
00:28:03,430 --> 00:28:00,320
to god

742
00:28:04,070 --> 00:28:03,440
that thing was so damn heavy i mean the

743
00:28:06,389 --> 00:28:04,080
first thing

744
00:28:07,909 --> 00:28:06,399
the guy across me was saying damn joe

745
00:28:08,549 --> 00:28:07,919
must put all his damn money in this

746
00:28:11,350 --> 00:28:08,559
casket

747
00:28:13,029 --> 00:28:11,360
you know and taking him with him because

748
00:28:14,830 --> 00:28:13,039
i mean this that thing was heavy i

749
00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:14,840
couldn't believe how heavy it was

750
00:28:19,430 --> 00:28:18,480
yeah they are as morbid as it is folks

751
00:28:21,350 --> 00:28:19,440
there are moments

752
00:28:23,029 --> 00:28:21,360
where you can have a chuckle at a

753
00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:23,039
funeral i guess especially when you're a

754
00:28:25,909 --> 00:28:24,080
polar bear

755
00:28:28,549 --> 00:28:25,919
you know when i die i hope they use a

756
00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:28,559
pneumatic lift to move me

757
00:28:33,269 --> 00:28:30,240
i don't want to punish anybody trying to

758
00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:34,789
of course it's going to be a long time

759
00:28:38,710 --> 00:28:37,200
and you know i i want to be a tree i

760
00:28:41,269 --> 00:28:38,720
want to be put in one of those tree pods

761
00:28:42,870 --> 00:28:41,279
and then planted

762
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:42,880
oh well that's interesting and then my

763
00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:44,880
wife always says knowing your luck honey

764
00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:46,640
the tree will be struck by lightning or

765
00:28:50,789 --> 00:28:48,320
a tornado will just

766
00:28:52,549 --> 00:28:50,799
pluck it up and chug it oh no no with

767
00:28:53,030 --> 00:28:52,559
your luck shawn they'll put it in a dog

768
00:28:54,710 --> 00:28:53,040
park

769
00:28:57,750 --> 00:28:54,720
[Laughter]

770
00:28:59,510 --> 00:28:57,760
even better you know what even better

771
00:29:00,710 --> 00:28:59,520
i got that sick twisted sense of humor

772
00:29:02,710 --> 00:29:00,720
but it is what it is cause you gotta

773
00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:02,720
laugh a little bit folks

774
00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:04,240
you gotta laugh because at the end of

775
00:29:10,149 --> 00:29:06,480
the day this is just a radio show

776
00:29:11,669 --> 00:29:10,159
and something just

777
00:29:12,789 --> 00:29:11,679
there's always something to be you

778
00:29:14,630 --> 00:29:12,799
always have to find something to smile

779
00:29:16,950 --> 00:29:14,640
about or life's not worth living

780
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:16,960
uh we do have dark waters coming up in

781
00:29:21,029 --> 00:29:18,960
just a moment guys lon i know dark

782
00:29:23,190 --> 00:29:21,039
waters is one of your favorites

783
00:29:25,190 --> 00:29:23,200
dark waters as he is known by his

784
00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:25,200
youtube listeners and subscribers

785
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is a master storyteller following the

786
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traditions of the greatest oral

787
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narrators

788
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dark waters combination of southern

789
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vernacular and true encounters

790
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creates a unique gumbo of realistic yet

791
00:29:39,909 --> 00:29:38,240
entertaining content

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00:29:41,909 --> 00:29:39,919
his down-to-earth mannerisms and

793
00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:41,919
personality has led him to appearances

794
00:29:46,389 --> 00:29:43,039
on coast-to-coast i

795
00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:46,399
am a coast-to-coast am darkness radio

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arcane radio this show and many other

797
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paranormal talk radio shows and dark

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waters has become a

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fan favorite in the horror and

800
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paranormal world and after you listen to

801
00:30:01,269 --> 00:29:58,720
these brief commercials

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we'll be back with dark water stay tuned

803
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folks

804
00:30:06,070 --> 00:30:04,720
we'll catch you on the flip side and

805
00:30:08,950 --> 00:30:06,080
folks welcome back

806
00:30:10,789 --> 00:30:08,960
arcane radio sean forker lon strickler

807
00:30:12,230 --> 00:30:10,799
butch witkowski and tonight's special

808
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guest as you heard before we brought it

809
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on the break

810
00:30:17,590 --> 00:30:16,159
our good friend storyteller horror maven

811
00:30:20,149 --> 00:30:17,600
extraordinaire

812
00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:20,159
dark waters is joining us dw thanks for

813
00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:21,760
coming on the night and uh we're just

814
00:30:26,549 --> 00:30:24,240
glad to have you back

815
00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:26,559
what's going on gentlemen i'm in uh i'm

816
00:30:30,310 --> 00:30:28,480
in great company man i really appreciate

817
00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:30,320
you guys having me on

818
00:30:34,470 --> 00:30:31,600
give me a little time to hang out with

819
00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:34,480
you guys it's our pleasure as always and

820
00:30:36,870 --> 00:30:35,200
uh

821
00:30:38,630 --> 00:30:36,880
i know lon was itching at the bit to get

822
00:30:40,710 --> 00:30:38,640
you back on here and as we all

823
00:30:42,549 --> 00:30:40,720
are what's been going on how's things

824
00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:42,559
been on youtube and and what great

825
00:30:49,510 --> 00:30:46,240
stories you got lined up for us tonight

826
00:30:51,909 --> 00:30:49,520
youtube has been awesome um i started

827
00:30:55,110 --> 00:30:51,919
putting out a lot more content lately

828
00:30:57,110 --> 00:30:55,120
just because i figured you know

829
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:57,120
over time i had slowed down and had a

830
00:31:00,549 --> 00:30:58,480
few distractions

831
00:31:01,830 --> 00:31:00,559
so i figured you know from a youtube

832
00:31:04,789 --> 00:31:01,840
perspective

833
00:31:07,269 --> 00:31:04,799
i've yet to find someone who can pretty

834
00:31:09,269 --> 00:31:07,279
much tell a story on youtube

835
00:31:10,389 --> 00:31:09,279
the majority of those guys on youtube

836
00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:10,399
are

837
00:31:15,110 --> 00:31:12,960
they're in the sound and scary but their

838
00:31:17,269 --> 00:31:15,120
content is not scary so

839
00:31:18,950 --> 00:31:17,279
i decided to put out a lot more content

840
00:31:20,630 --> 00:31:18,960
so that's what i've been doing

841
00:31:22,070 --> 00:31:20,640
normally i'll put out like five videos a

842
00:31:25,029 --> 00:31:22,080
month i think this month

843
00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:25,039
i put out 17 so far with another maybe

844
00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:26,720
seven to go

845
00:31:32,149 --> 00:31:29,760
yeah um great so

846
00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:32,159
i'm putting out a lot more content

847
00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:33,600
outside of that

848
00:31:40,389 --> 00:31:37,440
you know life is going pretty good um

849
00:31:42,630 --> 00:31:40,399
we had some interesting revelations in

850
00:31:44,310 --> 00:31:42,640
my family and i think i shared all

851
00:31:46,149 --> 00:31:44,320
my family's background in history with

852
00:31:47,990 --> 00:31:46,159
you guys right about my grandmother

853
00:31:49,110 --> 00:31:48,000
being in the hoodoo and all the crazy

854
00:31:52,389 --> 00:31:49,120
foolishness in my family

855
00:31:53,669 --> 00:31:52,399
oh go ahead and tell us about that

856
00:31:55,990 --> 00:31:53,679
i thought i shared that with you guys

857
00:31:58,470 --> 00:31:56,000
last time well i did i know i did share

858
00:32:00,630 --> 00:31:58,480
the story about when i was 12 years old

859
00:32:02,549 --> 00:32:00,640
how there was this shadow figure that

860
00:32:04,950 --> 00:32:02,559
came from me in mississippi

861
00:32:06,389 --> 00:32:04,960
well all that stems back to my

862
00:32:09,909 --> 00:32:06,399
grandmother's

863
00:32:11,110 --> 00:32:09,919
um who do practicing well she's 98 years

864
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:11,120
old now

865
00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:14,720
and two weeks ago everybody thought she

866
00:32:17,190 --> 00:32:16,240
was on a death bed she was at the

867
00:32:19,029 --> 00:32:17,200
hospital

868
00:32:21,350 --> 00:32:19,039
you know family members came in from

869
00:32:23,190 --> 00:32:21,360
around the country to visit her because

870
00:32:25,029 --> 00:32:23,200
they thought she was gonna die

871
00:32:26,230 --> 00:32:25,039
and people started putting this pressure

872
00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:26,240
on me you know

873
00:32:29,269 --> 00:32:27,760
i don't really associate with that side

874
00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:29,279
of the family which is my mother's side

875
00:32:32,230 --> 00:32:30,720
of family and also people start putting

876
00:32:33,750 --> 00:32:32,240
this pressure on me like you know

877
00:32:35,509 --> 00:32:33,760
if your grandmother passes or you're

878
00:32:37,110 --> 00:32:35,519
going to the funeral you know

879
00:32:39,830 --> 00:32:37,120
you know she's sick you need to reach

880
00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:39,840
out to her and blah blah blah blah blah

881
00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:42,000
and i don't i don't say that to be you

882
00:32:45,029 --> 00:32:43,440
know to sound like a hard

883
00:32:45,990 --> 00:32:45,039
behind but i'm just it's just one of

884
00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:46,000
those things people started putting

885
00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:47,600
pressure on me

886
00:32:51,029 --> 00:32:49,440
and i told them i'm like she's not going

887
00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:51,039
anywhere i'm like you guys are all

888
00:32:53,909 --> 00:32:52,240
coming in town

889
00:32:55,909 --> 00:32:53,919
you're running to see her and she's not

890
00:32:57,269 --> 00:32:55,919
going anywhere i said that woman's not

891
00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:57,279
dying anytime soon

892
00:33:00,389 --> 00:32:59,760
so goes into the hospital they got all

893
00:33:03,110 --> 00:33:00,399
morphine

894
00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:03,120
all the stuff that you prepare to do for

895
00:33:08,389 --> 00:33:06,480
a person that's going to pass away

896
00:33:10,630 --> 00:33:08,399
my sister because i have a younger

897
00:33:12,149 --> 00:33:10,640
sister she goes there goes to visit

898
00:33:14,310 --> 00:33:12,159
when she goes i say hey don't bring your

899
00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:14,320
children you just go

900
00:33:17,669 --> 00:33:15,600
and she's like no i'm gonna bring my

901
00:33:19,990 --> 00:33:17,679
children blah blah blah blah blah

902
00:33:20,789 --> 00:33:20,000
they go she goes and visit her in the

903
00:33:22,549 --> 00:33:20,799
hospital

904
00:33:25,029 --> 00:33:22,559
she says well she looks like she's you

905
00:33:27,909 --> 00:33:25,039
know she's about to die

906
00:33:29,110 --> 00:33:27,919
the very next day before she can get

907
00:33:31,269 --> 00:33:29,120
back to new orleans

908
00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:31,279
she goes to visit one more time my

909
00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:32,880
grandmother's sitting up in a chair next

910
00:33:37,269 --> 00:33:34,159
to the bed

911
00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:37,279
and there's a preacher a southern

912
00:33:41,909 --> 00:33:39,279
baptist preacher that's coming to

913
00:33:43,669 --> 00:33:41,919
kind of give her her last rights and the

914
00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:43,679
craziest thing is you know most people

915
00:33:47,110 --> 00:33:44,240
when they're

916
00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:47,120
up in age like that in their 90s and

917
00:33:50,549 --> 00:33:48,720
they know they're close to death

918
00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:50,559
they really want you know to get that

919
00:33:54,149 --> 00:33:52,480
final blessing well

920
00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:54,159
preacher walks in the room and says hey

921
00:33:57,590 --> 00:33:55,919
i want to pray over you

922
00:33:58,870 --> 00:33:57,600
she starts to curse this preacher out

923
00:33:59,430 --> 00:33:58,880
tells him that he needs to leave the

924
00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:59,440
room

925
00:34:02,549 --> 00:34:00,720
well i actually didn't say that she said

926
00:34:04,950 --> 00:34:02,559
you need to get away from me

927
00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:04,960
and so the preacher's like wait what

928
00:34:08,149 --> 00:34:06,000
yeah you need to get away

929
00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:08,159
from me she said i don't need your

930
00:34:11,669 --> 00:34:09,599
prayers get away from me

931
00:34:13,270 --> 00:34:11,679
and so he backs away and says you know

932
00:34:15,030 --> 00:34:13,280
is this far enough away from you

933
00:34:16,869 --> 00:34:15,040
and she says no i mean like outside of

934
00:34:18,149 --> 00:34:16,879
the door so this preacher stands in the

935
00:34:21,270 --> 00:34:18,159
threshold of the

936
00:34:22,710 --> 00:34:21,280
hospital door room and he says a prayer

937
00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:22,720
and then he leaves well my sister

938
00:34:25,190 --> 00:34:24,240
catches up with him and talks to him a

939
00:34:27,829 --> 00:34:25,200
little bit

940
00:34:28,869 --> 00:34:27,839
and i heard my uncle standing there and

941
00:34:30,149 --> 00:34:28,879
this is the same

942
00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:30,159
southern baptist preacher that's

943
00:34:33,030 --> 00:34:31,679
preached to my family since my

944
00:34:36,470 --> 00:34:33,040
grandfather

945
00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:36,480
my god

946
00:34:43,430 --> 00:34:39,599
i had to be nine years old

947
00:34:44,790 --> 00:34:43,440
so he tells my sister he said you know

948
00:34:46,710 --> 00:34:44,800
and my uncle he says you know

949
00:34:48,310 --> 00:34:46,720
something's not right with her you know

950
00:34:50,550 --> 00:34:48,320
something's off with her

951
00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:50,560
she's not you know she's not all there

952
00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:51,839
and they said well you know she's up in

953
00:34:54,470 --> 00:34:53,760
age and she's old he's like no no no no

954
00:34:58,390 --> 00:34:54,480
no

955
00:35:02,310 --> 00:34:58,400
walks off

956
00:35:03,910 --> 00:35:02,320
so now my family is they've come to town

957
00:35:05,349 --> 00:35:03,920
a lot of them have spent money coming

958
00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:05,359
traveling in town and now she's back at

959
00:35:10,470 --> 00:35:06,480
home

960
00:35:14,069 --> 00:35:10,480
and sitting around relaxing

961
00:35:16,630 --> 00:35:14,079
so after

962
00:35:17,589 --> 00:35:16,640
after cursing out the preacher and so i

963
00:35:19,589 --> 00:35:17,599
had a lot of

964
00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:19,599
i have a few cousins that i'm very close

965
00:35:23,190 --> 00:35:22,000
to and they all had to come in town and

966
00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:23,200
you know when you're going into

967
00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:25,440
mississippi the closest international

968
00:35:28,390 --> 00:35:27,200
airport is the new orleans international

969
00:35:29,750 --> 00:35:28,400
airport

970
00:35:31,430 --> 00:35:29,760
so they all come through here and they

971
00:35:31,990 --> 00:35:31,440
track you down like hey you know we're

972
00:35:35,670 --> 00:35:32,000
going to

973
00:35:36,630 --> 00:35:35,680
and they put this pressure on you and

974
00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:36,640
i'm like no i'm

975
00:35:40,310 --> 00:35:38,480
i'm not going you know leave me alone

976
00:35:41,190 --> 00:35:40,320
you can go you can do whatever you want

977
00:35:43,349 --> 00:35:41,200
to do

978
00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:43,359
i'm not putting myself in an environment

979
00:35:46,790 --> 00:35:44,240
with her

980
00:35:48,390 --> 00:35:46,800
because i don't think it's safe so

981
00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:48,400
that's what's been going on the family

982
00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:49,200
side

983
00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:51,119
crazy crazy foolishness and i think i

984
00:35:56,390 --> 00:35:53,760
don't know if i told you guys this but

985
00:35:57,510 --> 00:35:56,400
my family over the years my family has

986
00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:57,520
been plagued with these different

987
00:36:00,069 --> 00:35:58,480
cancers

988
00:36:02,150 --> 00:36:00,079
just to bring into your attention why

989
00:36:05,349 --> 00:36:02,160
i'm so worried about going there

990
00:36:09,829 --> 00:36:05,359
my father who's still alive this is

991
00:36:12,310 --> 00:36:09,839
all last year so last year 2016

992
00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:12,320
at the end of 2015 he was diagnosed with

993
00:36:17,109 --> 00:36:13,680
prostate cancer

994
00:36:19,270 --> 00:36:17,119
in october of 2015

995
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:19,280
he went to visit my grandmother and they

996
00:36:22,069 --> 00:36:20,240
had an argument

997
00:36:23,670 --> 00:36:22,079
about because my mother died of cancer

998
00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:23,680
breast cancer when i was young

999
00:36:28,230 --> 00:36:26,640
young girls in my 20s so my father goes

1000
00:36:31,030 --> 00:36:28,240
to visit his

1001
00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:31,040
mother-in-law just to say hey just to

1002
00:36:35,589 --> 00:36:32,800
say hello how are you doing i'm checking

1003
00:36:36,870 --> 00:36:35,599
in with you she completely spazzes out

1004
00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:36,880
kanye west style saying

1005
00:36:40,230 --> 00:36:38,320
i know you have another woman down there

1006
00:36:41,670 --> 00:36:40,240
in new orleans and you better not ever

1007
00:36:43,109 --> 00:36:41,680
let me see her because i got something

1008
00:36:43,750 --> 00:36:43,119
for you and her but i would meet her

1009
00:36:45,510 --> 00:36:43,760
blah blah blah

1010
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:45,520
blah woman he was with not even serious

1011
00:36:48,950 --> 00:36:47,200
with the woman but she just spans us

1012
00:36:50,870 --> 00:36:48,960
completely out

1013
00:36:52,870 --> 00:36:50,880
two and a half to three days later after

1014
00:36:55,670 --> 00:36:52,880
that he ends up going to

1015
00:36:57,670 --> 00:36:55,680
get a routine checkup finds out he has

1016
00:37:04,310 --> 00:36:57,680
prostate cancer

1017
00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:04,320
year of 2016.

1018
00:37:07,750 --> 00:37:06,160
and he's fine and he's had his prostate

1019
00:37:09,750 --> 00:37:07,760
removed and everything's cool but

1020
00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:09,760
it's just when people get close to this

1021
00:37:14,870 --> 00:37:11,280
woman bad things happen

1022
00:37:18,550 --> 00:37:14,880
so i'm staying away she puts the mojo

1023
00:37:22,390 --> 00:37:18,560
absolutely puts the major mojo on him

1024
00:37:23,109 --> 00:37:22,400
major major mojo on him so i am staying

1025
00:37:25,270 --> 00:37:23,119
away

1026
00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:25,280
i think it's the best thing for me to do

1027
00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:26,640
considering the fact that

1028
00:37:31,829 --> 00:37:29,920
um i have been away for so long and that

1029
00:37:35,190 --> 00:37:31,839
she's requested for me to come

1030
00:37:36,710 --> 00:37:35,200
several times and i've said no she even

1031
00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:36,720
called and said you need to come see me

1032
00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:38,240
and i'll say no i'm not coming to see

1033
00:37:41,910 --> 00:37:39,119
you

1034
00:37:43,510 --> 00:37:41,920
so um and when the funeral happens i

1035
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:43,520
won't go and i won't let my sons go

1036
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:44,560
because i have a son

1037
00:37:48,390 --> 00:37:47,280
that's 12 and one that's 13. and that's

1038
00:37:50,069 --> 00:37:48,400
that age

1039
00:37:51,829 --> 00:37:50,079
where all that strangeness tends to

1040
00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:51,839
happen so there's

1041
00:37:56,390 --> 00:37:54,240
no i mean when i tell you there is a

1042
00:37:59,829 --> 00:37:56,400
zero percent chance that they're going

1043
00:38:01,589 --> 00:37:59,839
zero in fact we had a conversation

1044
00:38:03,190 --> 00:38:01,599
because i hadn't told them everything

1045
00:38:04,310 --> 00:38:03,200
about their family so we were riding in

1046
00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:04,320
the car and i said hey man i need to

1047
00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:05,760
tell you guys some things

1048
00:38:09,750 --> 00:38:07,040
and i'm like well what you need to tell

1049
00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:09,760
us dad so i started this was hilarious

1050
00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:11,280
because i have one in the front seat one

1051
00:38:13,910 --> 00:38:12,640
in the back seat the oldest one's the

1052
00:38:15,270 --> 00:38:13,920
back seat the youngest one is just

1053
00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:15,280
sitting there with his mouth open when

1054
00:38:19,910 --> 00:38:16,560
i'm explaining this to him

1055
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:19,920
and the other one is like wait what wait

1056
00:38:24,390 --> 00:38:23,280
what happened really he was like man

1057
00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:24,400
this is crazy

1058
00:38:27,910 --> 00:38:26,320
and i was like yeah so you you won't be

1059
00:38:29,750 --> 00:38:27,920
going to that funeral and i need you to

1060
00:38:30,790 --> 00:38:29,760
understand why when the fight starts

1061
00:38:32,550 --> 00:38:30,800
over this

1062
00:38:34,550 --> 00:38:32,560
i want you to understand why i don't

1063
00:38:36,390 --> 00:38:34,560
want you to go because

1064
00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:36,400
there will be a knock down drag out

1065
00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:38,560
fight if someone tries to take you

1066
00:38:42,150 --> 00:38:40,640
to that funeral and it was like well man

1067
00:38:43,990 --> 00:38:42,160
based on what you're telling me i'm not

1068
00:38:44,710 --> 00:38:44,000
trying to go i'm like i just need you to

1069
00:38:48,470 --> 00:38:44,720
know

1070
00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:48,480
so um that's just my life though crazy

1071
00:38:54,310 --> 00:38:51,520
crazy crazy foolishness that

1072
00:38:56,069 --> 00:38:54,320
that only happens to me and this and it

1073
00:38:56,870 --> 00:38:56,079
is insane because it seems like these

1074
00:38:58,230 --> 00:38:56,880
type of

1075
00:38:59,990 --> 00:38:58,240
things have followed me around my whole

1076
00:39:02,950 --> 00:39:00,000
life and i think it all boils back down

1077
00:39:03,829 --> 00:39:02,960
to you know to that that bloodline that

1078
00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:03,839
i have with this

1079
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:06,320
this who doing it i really think that's

1080
00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:09,040
what it boils down to

1081
00:39:13,109 --> 00:39:11,520
yeah well you know i i tell you you know

1082
00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:13,119
i

1083
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:23,760
the hoodoo and the scenery and all that

1084
00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:25,200
i mean i just

1085
00:39:30,069 --> 00:39:28,320
i like to read about it and uh i have

1086
00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:30,079
had cases where

1087
00:39:33,829 --> 00:39:32,320
you know some of the uh information has

1088
00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:33,839
helped me but

1089
00:39:37,270 --> 00:39:36,720
i know it's it's a pretty wicked stuff

1090
00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:37,280
man i

1091
00:39:41,510 --> 00:39:39,520
i i don't like to mess with it myself

1092
00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:41,520
either

1093
00:39:48,790 --> 00:39:44,560
no it's truly wicked stuff yeah yeah

1094
00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:48,800
oh yeah yes it is and um

1095
00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:52,640
so what interesting story

1096
00:39:57,670 --> 00:39:54,960
as far as monsters and creatures do you

1097
00:40:01,109 --> 00:39:57,680
have for us you have something uh

1098
00:40:03,430 --> 00:40:01,119
something quite unusual i gotta

1099
00:40:05,109 --> 00:40:03,440
i got all kinds of stuff for you i mean

1100
00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:05,119
you guys can pick a topic and i can

1101
00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:06,240
pretty much give you one

1102
00:40:12,870 --> 00:40:09,760
i would say that the most recent one

1103
00:40:13,430 --> 00:40:12,880
that i just had was and this is this has

1104
00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:13,440
to do with

1105
00:40:19,349 --> 00:40:18,000
ghosts um a gentleman called me

1106
00:40:21,270 --> 00:40:19,359
what's the day wednesday or tuesday

1107
00:40:22,230 --> 00:40:21,280
today's two wednesdays so he called me

1108
00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:22,240
saturday

1109
00:40:27,910 --> 00:40:26,640
he was like hey dog waters i just want

1110
00:40:29,829 --> 00:40:27,920
to share a story with you

1111
00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:29,839
you may find it true you mean you may

1112
00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:31,280
not find it true but

1113
00:40:34,950 --> 00:40:32,560
i just want to share the story because i

1114
00:40:35,589 --> 00:40:34,960
know you listen and he goes on to tell

1115
00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:35,599
me that

1116
00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:37,440
him and his mother share a car and his

1117
00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:40,000
mother works at a funeral home

1118
00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:41,680
and this guy's right in baton rouge he's

1119
00:40:46,630 --> 00:40:43,520
not very far from here at all

1120
00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:46,640
and so every morning he gets up early

1121
00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:48,240
drops his mother off at the funeral home

1122
00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:49,920
her job is to

1123
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:52,160
dress the people's dead bodies and get

1124
00:40:56,069 --> 00:40:54,640
them prepared for the funeral so

1125
00:40:57,430 --> 00:40:56,079
you know when you do the final viewing

1126
00:40:59,510 --> 00:40:57,440
in the castle got a person look so

1127
00:41:02,870 --> 00:40:59,520
beautiful and they had the makeup on and

1128
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:02,880
eyeshadow that's his mom's job right

1129
00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:05,440
so he's every morning he drops her off

1130
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:06,720
then he goes to his job

1131
00:41:12,790 --> 00:41:10,160
well his mother had been telling him

1132
00:41:14,069 --> 00:41:12,800
these weird things like over the past

1133
00:41:16,309 --> 00:41:14,079
couple of weeks like

1134
00:41:17,829 --> 00:41:16,319
stuff like bad things happen when you

1135
00:41:19,750 --> 00:41:17,839
disrespect the dead he was like you know

1136
00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:19,760
she would say these cryptic things like

1137
00:41:21,990 --> 00:41:20,400
cryptic

1138
00:41:23,990 --> 00:41:22,000
things like you know things that just

1139
00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:24,000
didn't they were out of the blue

1140
00:41:26,790 --> 00:41:25,200
and he's like it really started to

1141
00:41:27,990 --> 00:41:26,800
bother me because she would just say

1142
00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:28,000
these little things like people are

1143
00:41:31,589 --> 00:41:29,200
disrespecting the dead and when you

1144
00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:31,599
disrespect the dead bad things happen

1145
00:41:36,790 --> 00:41:34,480
um you know be careful what you say and

1146
00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:36,800
be careful what you wish for

1147
00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:40,240
and so finally he's dropping her off

1148
00:41:45,030 --> 00:41:43,200
at work one morning drops her off pulls

1149
00:41:46,710 --> 00:41:45,040
up in the parking lot drops off you know

1150
00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:46,720
talks with her a little bit

1151
00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:49,200
drives away as he's heading down uh

1152
00:41:51,910 --> 00:41:51,040
florida boulevard which is the actual

1153
00:41:54,550 --> 00:41:51,920
street that he's on

1154
00:41:55,349 --> 00:41:54,560
in baton rouge he looks in his rear view

1155
00:41:57,030 --> 00:41:55,359
mirror

1156
00:41:58,390 --> 00:41:57,040
and in the back seat he sees it and he

1157
00:42:00,470 --> 00:41:58,400
described it as this

1158
00:42:01,750 --> 00:42:00,480
most absolutely gorgeous woman he'd ever

1159
00:42:01,990 --> 00:42:01,760
seen in his life just sitting in the

1160
00:42:03,829 --> 00:42:02,000
back

1161
00:42:05,430 --> 00:42:03,839
seat of his car and he's like what the

1162
00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:05,440
hell is this woman doing my car he turns

1163
00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:06,160
his head

1164
00:42:12,069 --> 00:42:10,160
but there's no one there goes to work

1165
00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:12,079
does his normal thing throughout the day

1166
00:42:14,550 --> 00:42:13,680
around 2 30 3 o'clock goes to the

1167
00:42:17,349 --> 00:42:14,560
restroom

1168
00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:17,359
hands and he starts to get this feeling

1169
00:42:19,750 --> 00:42:18,720
like somebody's watching him looks in

1170
00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:19,760
the mirror

1171
00:42:23,990 --> 00:42:21,599
and sees this warming this woman

1172
00:42:26,150 --> 00:42:24,000
standing behind him through the mirror

1173
00:42:27,990 --> 00:42:26,160
and he turns around and he can actually

1174
00:42:28,710 --> 00:42:28,000
physically see the manifestation of this

1175
00:42:31,510 --> 00:42:28,720
ghost

1176
00:42:33,109 --> 00:42:31,520
and he said she looked concerned and i

1177
00:42:34,309 --> 00:42:33,119
was like what do you mean bro concern

1178
00:42:36,790 --> 00:42:34,319
he's like she had this look of

1179
00:42:37,910 --> 00:42:36,800
compassion on her face like she was just

1180
00:42:39,270 --> 00:42:37,920
concerned i don't know if she was

1181
00:42:41,510 --> 00:42:39,280
concerned for me

1182
00:42:43,430 --> 00:42:41,520
or who or what she was concerned about

1183
00:42:45,109 --> 00:42:43,440
but she just looked very very concerned

1184
00:42:48,150 --> 00:42:45,119
and then she disappeared

1185
00:42:50,069 --> 00:42:48,160
and so me you know trying to vet out all

1186
00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:50,079
the stories i i try i say hey man well

1187
00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:51,359
give me a description of how it

1188
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:52,800
manifested and he was

1189
00:42:56,069 --> 00:42:54,720
and i've discovered that sometimes i

1190
00:42:57,589 --> 00:42:56,079
press people too hard and when you

1191
00:43:00,630 --> 00:42:57,599
really press someone

1192
00:43:02,630 --> 00:43:00,640
extremely hard who's

1193
00:43:03,910 --> 00:43:02,640
telling the truth they'll tell you the

1194
00:43:05,109 --> 00:43:03,920
same thing over and over and over and

1195
00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:05,119
over again and they get to a point to

1196
00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:06,560
where it just aggravates them and so

1197
00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:08,079
then they start pushing you away

1198
00:43:11,109 --> 00:43:09,599
well that's the process i went through

1199
00:43:12,230 --> 00:43:11,119
with him i got to the point where i

1200
00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:12,240
guess i got on the skin and he was like

1201
00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:13,440
man you're not listening to me

1202
00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:15,520
it wasn't like on tv where the ghost

1203
00:43:19,270 --> 00:43:16,880
kind of is this

1204
00:43:21,030 --> 00:43:19,280
myth that appears she was just there and

1205
00:43:22,470 --> 00:43:21,040
she was right there behind me and i saw

1206
00:43:25,910 --> 00:43:22,480
her and i looked her in her eyes

1207
00:43:26,710 --> 00:43:25,920
and she looked concerned he goes back to

1208
00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:26,720
um

1209
00:43:29,589 --> 00:43:28,240
he goes back to pick up his mom from

1210
00:43:31,829 --> 00:43:29,599
work at the end of the day start telling

1211
00:43:34,390 --> 00:43:31,839
his mom about what happened

1212
00:43:36,150 --> 00:43:34,400
she pulls out a picture of one of the

1213
00:43:36,870 --> 00:43:36,160
people that she had been dressing that

1214
00:43:40,309 --> 00:43:36,880
day

1215
00:43:42,069 --> 00:43:40,319
this lady had died in a car accident and

1216
00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:42,079
uh it's the exact same person in the

1217
00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:43,760
picture that he was seeing

1218
00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:45,359
and so his question to me was well you

1219
00:43:47,510 --> 00:43:47,040
know why would she be following me

1220
00:43:48,790 --> 00:43:47,520
around

1221
00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:48,800
i'm like dude i don't know i said i

1222
00:43:52,470 --> 00:43:50,880
don't have the answers to everything

1223
00:43:54,309 --> 00:43:52,480
i said i can't tell you the answers to

1224
00:43:56,550 --> 00:43:54,319
everything so all i can tell you is

1225
00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:56,560
i believe your story i ended up talking

1226
00:44:00,069 --> 00:43:57,760
to his mom briefly

1227
00:44:01,510 --> 00:44:00,079
she was kind of standoffish but she

1228
00:44:03,109 --> 00:44:01,520
confirmed everything

1229
00:44:04,630 --> 00:44:03,119
and uh and it's probably just probably

1230
00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:04,640
more standoffish because i was trying to

1231
00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:06,560
dig into more of what has happened to

1232
00:44:09,430 --> 00:44:07,200
her

1233
00:44:10,790 --> 00:44:09,440
and why she was being so cryptic with

1234
00:44:11,829 --> 00:44:10,800
her son and telling her son these

1235
00:44:14,470 --> 00:44:11,839
stories and these

1236
00:44:16,069 --> 00:44:14,480
little sayings and she just was kind of

1237
00:44:17,190 --> 00:44:16,079
closed off i think eventually i'll get

1238
00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:17,200
her to talk

1239
00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:20,240
but that's one of the most recent

1240
00:44:22,630 --> 00:44:21,280
stories

1241
00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:22,640
and i don't know why the spirit would

1242
00:44:27,270 --> 00:44:24,640
get in the car and follow him

1243
00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:27,280
uh but he's still alive he hasn't had

1244
00:44:29,829 --> 00:44:28,800
any car accidents nothing crazy has

1245
00:44:30,870 --> 00:44:29,839
happened so

1246
00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:30,880
maybe something's coming down the

1247
00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:32,400
pipeline that's going to happen to him i

1248
00:44:36,790 --> 00:44:33,599
don't know

1249
00:44:40,309 --> 00:44:36,800
i i really doubt that that's like a

1250
00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:40,319
pre-cog thing i i it's probably

1251
00:44:48,550 --> 00:44:45,829
i don't know this thing was attracted to

1252
00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:48,560
him somehow this energy was attracted to

1253
00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:49,359
him

1254
00:44:52,470 --> 00:44:50,800
you know since he was so close to her

1255
00:44:55,030 --> 00:44:52,480
funeral home he dropped his mother off

1256
00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:55,040
she may have kids to ride with him

1257
00:45:00,069 --> 00:44:57,839
she was attracted to him did he ever

1258
00:45:03,670 --> 00:45:00,079
mention he had any other um

1259
00:45:03,990 --> 00:45:03,680
experiences before that i asked him that

1260
00:45:06,309 --> 00:45:04,000
very

1261
00:45:08,309 --> 00:45:06,319
question he said no he hadn't had any

1262
00:45:09,430 --> 00:45:08,319
paranormal experiences outside of that

1263
00:45:11,190 --> 00:45:09,440
one

1264
00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:11,200
and he said he doesn't want it he was he

1265
00:45:13,109 --> 00:45:12,480
was like and i don't want anything other

1266
00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:13,119
than that

1267
00:45:16,790 --> 00:45:15,839
yeah so yeah that means i can't blame

1268
00:45:20,309 --> 00:45:16,800
the dude

1269
00:45:25,510 --> 00:45:20,319
yeah well that's pretty cool um

1270
00:45:28,069 --> 00:45:25,520
any um any bigfoot or dog man stories

1271
00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:28,079
since we talked to you the last time

1272
00:45:31,750 --> 00:45:29,920
yeah i get dog meeting stuff

1273
00:45:33,109 --> 00:45:31,760
i literally get dog man stuff all the

1274
00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:33,119
time

1275
00:45:36,309 --> 00:45:34,480
do you think how many of these store

1276
00:45:37,589 --> 00:45:36,319
these dog man encounters people are

1277
00:45:40,710 --> 00:45:37,599
having

1278
00:45:43,109 --> 00:45:40,720
uh i i just you know i the stuff that i

1279
00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:43,119
hear and i know you here too

1280
00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:46,800
it's uh it for whatever reason

1281
00:45:51,990 --> 00:45:50,160
it just becomes more prevalent now

1282
00:45:53,670 --> 00:45:52,000
well it's a lot more prevalent than like

1283
00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:53,680
i said this the last time we spoke i

1284
00:45:59,030 --> 00:45:54,720
think it's

1285
00:46:01,270 --> 00:45:59,040
monetized that monetization leads to

1286
00:46:03,190 --> 00:46:01,280
people creating encounters and making up

1287
00:46:04,790 --> 00:46:03,200
stuff and so it gets to the point where

1288
00:46:06,470 --> 00:46:04,800
it's kind of hard to decipher what's

1289
00:46:08,550 --> 00:46:06,480
real and what's not real

1290
00:46:10,470 --> 00:46:08,560
i've heard so many of them and heard so

1291
00:46:12,230 --> 00:46:10,480
many fake ones

1292
00:46:14,069 --> 00:46:12,240
and i've heard so many real ones that

1293
00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:14,079
there are these things that that ring

1294
00:46:17,430 --> 00:46:14,880
true through the

1295
00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:17,440
the real encounters right i mean and

1296
00:46:20,710 --> 00:46:17,920
it's just

1297
00:46:22,870 --> 00:46:20,720
it's consistent and it's not just it's

1298
00:46:24,309 --> 00:46:22,880
not the description of the creature

1299
00:46:26,150 --> 00:46:24,319
and that's what i found i found that the

1300
00:46:28,550 --> 00:46:26,160
description of the creature is not

1301
00:46:30,309 --> 00:46:28,560
always consistent because it hinges that

1302
00:46:32,390 --> 00:46:30,319
description hinges on

1303
00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:32,400
that individual's mind state the

1304
00:46:37,109 --> 00:46:34,000
individual's physical

1305
00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:37,119
ability to see the the creature but what

1306
00:46:40,790 --> 00:46:38,800
is very very consistent through all

1307
00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:40,800
dogman encounters is the emotions that

1308
00:46:43,670 --> 00:46:41,520
the person

1309
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:43,680
feels from their encounter with the

1310
00:46:46,870 --> 00:46:44,560
creature

1311
00:46:47,910 --> 00:46:46,880
that's the one thing that lets me know

1312
00:46:49,349 --> 00:46:47,920
um

1313
00:46:50,950 --> 00:46:49,359
whether it's real or not whether it's

1314
00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:50,960
true or not i talk to people who say oh

1315
00:46:54,630 --> 00:46:51,920
i've seen them

1316
00:46:56,390 --> 00:46:54,640
and they can describe the eyebrows and

1317
00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:56,400
they can describe the whiskers and they

1318
00:46:59,829 --> 00:46:57,839
can describe the nose and how the nose

1319
00:47:02,870 --> 00:46:59,839
is wet and the teeth and blah blah blah

1320
00:47:04,230 --> 00:47:02,880
i mean just down to the i mean down to

1321
00:47:06,470 --> 00:47:04,240
where you could almost

1322
00:47:07,670 --> 00:47:06,480
uh craft the clay model from their

1323
00:47:09,510 --> 00:47:07,680
description

1324
00:47:11,270 --> 00:47:09,520
or if you had like a crime scene guy who

1325
00:47:12,790 --> 00:47:11,280
a crime screen sketch artist a sketch

1326
00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:12,800
artist they can describe to the sketch

1327
00:47:15,990 --> 00:47:13,440
artisan

1328
00:47:17,109 --> 00:47:16,000
he can draw a picture but at the same

1329
00:47:18,870 --> 00:47:17,119
time

1330
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:18,880
while they're sharing that description

1331
00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:20,880
with me there's no fear

1332
00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:22,400
no tone of fear in their voice

1333
00:47:25,510 --> 00:47:24,800
whatsoever and i'm like yeah you know

1334
00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:25,520
you

1335
00:47:33,430 --> 00:47:29,280
description

1336
00:47:34,790 --> 00:47:33,440
mean you really got a great idea of how

1337
00:47:36,950 --> 00:47:34,800
to describe it

1338
00:47:38,630 --> 00:47:36,960
but how did it make you feel and then

1339
00:47:39,670 --> 00:47:38,640
that's where it just falls off the roof

1340
00:47:41,270 --> 00:47:39,680
because

1341
00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:41,280
if i'm standing in front of an eight

1342
00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:43,119
foot nine foot ten foot

1343
00:47:46,710 --> 00:47:44,880
seven foot six foot it doesn't matter

1344
00:47:48,549 --> 00:47:46,720
walking wolf

1345
00:47:51,030 --> 00:47:48,559
that's drooling at the mouth that's got

1346
00:47:54,150 --> 00:47:51,040
these piercing eyes

1347
00:47:55,990 --> 00:47:54,160
to me i'm

1348
00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:56,000
i'm gonna lose my mind and you're gonna

1349
00:47:58,470 --> 00:47:57,680
be able to tell that i lo i was losing

1350
00:47:59,670 --> 00:47:58,480
my mind

1351
00:48:03,190 --> 00:47:59,680
when i'm talking to you because i'm

1352
00:48:05,990 --> 00:48:03,200
gonna relive it so i say all that to say

1353
00:48:06,870 --> 00:48:06,000
the encounters that um i consider to be

1354
00:48:09,030 --> 00:48:06,880
true

1355
00:48:10,549 --> 00:48:09,040
are the encounters in which people

1356
00:48:13,589 --> 00:48:10,559
actually

1357
00:48:15,430 --> 00:48:13,599
uh show that fear and it's manifested

1358
00:48:16,630 --> 00:48:15,440
via the phone conversation and i'm

1359
00:48:19,430 --> 00:48:16,640
talking about people having

1360
00:48:20,150 --> 00:48:19,440
emotional breakdowns on the phone where

1361
00:48:22,309 --> 00:48:20,160
they just

1362
00:48:23,910 --> 00:48:22,319
i mean they're losing it and that was

1363
00:48:24,710 --> 00:48:23,920
one that i just recently talked to a

1364
00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:24,720
gentleman

1365
00:48:28,150 --> 00:48:26,079
were actually two gentlemen that are

1366
00:48:29,829 --> 00:48:28,160
hunters and he went out hunting together

1367
00:48:32,870 --> 00:48:29,839
their two brothers

1368
00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:32,880
they set up in a tree stand shot a deer

1369
00:48:36,630 --> 00:48:35,200
um and i didn't know this because i

1370
00:48:38,069 --> 00:48:36,640
don't go hunting but

1371
00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:38,079
they explained to me when you shoot the

1372
00:48:41,030 --> 00:48:39,760
deer then sometimes they don't always

1373
00:48:42,390 --> 00:48:41,040
die i'm thinking like in a video game

1374
00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:42,400
you shoot the deer just falls over right

1375
00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:44,000
there bam you go skinny and do whatever

1376
00:48:46,470 --> 00:48:44,640
you do

1377
00:48:48,069 --> 00:48:46,480
right they were like no no that's not

1378
00:48:49,589 --> 00:48:48,079
how it works sometimes when you shoot a

1379
00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:49,599
deer that you're run off

1380
00:48:52,630 --> 00:48:51,040
it's like and it's best just to let it

1381
00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:52,640
run off and bleed out

1382
00:48:56,309 --> 00:48:54,480
and you can go track it down you can

1383
00:48:56,710 --> 00:48:56,319
skin it wherever it is and take the meat

1384
00:48:59,910 --> 00:48:56,720
home

1385
00:49:02,069 --> 00:48:59,920
i'm like okay he taught me something so

1386
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:02,079
they shoot this deer the two brothers go

1387
00:49:05,589 --> 00:49:03,119
and they go to try and

1388
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:05,599
track it down well the track can follow

1389
00:49:08,069 --> 00:49:06,720
a blood trail

1390
00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:08,079
and when they get to the spot where the

1391
00:49:13,270 --> 00:49:10,079
dead body should be it's no longer there

1392
00:49:14,870 --> 00:49:13,280
but they see these this blood with

1393
00:49:16,630 --> 00:49:14,880
bubbles in it which i didn't understand

1394
00:49:18,309 --> 00:49:16,640
this either so i'm educated

1395
00:49:20,309 --> 00:49:18,319
and they said well when you see like

1396
00:49:20,790 --> 00:49:20,319
blood with bubbles in it it's lung blood

1397
00:49:26,069 --> 00:49:20,800
it's

1398
00:49:29,109 --> 00:49:26,079
blood you know the prey

1399
00:49:30,790 --> 00:49:29,119
or whatever you killed is dead or near

1400
00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:30,800
the depth and it should be an immediate

1401
00:49:33,670 --> 00:49:31,440
area

1402
00:49:35,109 --> 00:49:33,680
it shouldn't be a hundred yards away

1403
00:49:36,790 --> 00:49:35,119
because if you have a punctured line

1404
00:49:37,190 --> 00:49:36,800
you're not gonna get 100 yards away you

1405
00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:37,200
are

1406
00:49:41,190 --> 00:49:40,720
they break all that stuff down i mean

1407
00:49:42,950 --> 00:49:41,200
i'm like

1408
00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:42,960
okay guys cool you know i appreciate you

1409
00:49:45,990 --> 00:49:44,640
explaining it to me i like so what

1410
00:49:48,470 --> 00:49:46,000
happened to the deer

1411
00:49:49,430 --> 00:49:48,480
and they're like well my brother went

1412
00:49:51,430 --> 00:49:49,440
left i went right

1413
00:49:54,069 --> 00:49:51,440
and we started searching for it and the

1414
00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:54,079
older brother is walking under a tree

1415
00:49:57,030 --> 00:49:55,760
and as he's packing up passing under the

1416
00:49:58,230 --> 00:49:57,040
tree he starts to feel something

1417
00:49:59,670 --> 00:49:58,240
dripping on his shoulder

1418
00:50:01,430 --> 00:49:59,680
looks over his blood that's dripping

1419
00:50:02,950 --> 00:50:01,440
down on his shoulder and when are you

1420
00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:02,960
telling me this i'm like okay you guys

1421
00:50:07,430 --> 00:50:03,520
just watch

1422
00:50:10,390 --> 00:50:08,790
y'all playing me that's what i'm

1423
00:50:11,349 --> 00:50:10,400
thinking in my head you guys just like

1424
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:11,359
president so i'm like

1425
00:50:15,109 --> 00:50:13,200
come on man you got to come better than

1426
00:50:16,549 --> 00:50:15,119
this so

1427
00:50:19,589 --> 00:50:16,559
he's like he looks up in the tree and

1428
00:50:22,230 --> 00:50:19,599
this deer is wedged in between

1429
00:50:23,349 --> 00:50:22,240
these two tree limbs like a wedge like

1430
00:50:25,829 --> 00:50:23,359
jammed in

1431
00:50:27,030 --> 00:50:25,839
smushed in there and he's like man i

1432
00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:27,040
don't understand

1433
00:50:31,270 --> 00:50:29,920
not hanging but like something pushed it

1434
00:50:32,630 --> 00:50:31,280
in there and he was like

1435
00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:32,640
man i'm standing there looking up at the

1436
00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:34,640
tree he said i forgot my brother was

1437
00:50:37,430 --> 00:50:36,160
even out there with me

1438
00:50:39,510 --> 00:50:37,440
because i'm trying to my mind is trying

1439
00:50:39,990 --> 00:50:39,520
to wrap around what takes a deer and

1440
00:50:42,549 --> 00:50:40,000
wedges

1441
00:50:43,990 --> 00:50:42,559
it in a tree and why is this deer in a

1442
00:50:45,190 --> 00:50:44,000
tree he's like i could see the deer

1443
00:50:47,190 --> 00:50:45,200
possibly being

1444
00:50:48,549 --> 00:50:47,200
behind the trees died on the ground

1445
00:50:49,030 --> 00:50:48,559
behind the tree but being where's in the

1446
00:50:50,549 --> 00:50:49,040
tree

1447
00:50:52,230 --> 00:50:50,559
was just way too much and i was trying

1448
00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:52,240
to process it as he's standing there

1449
00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:54,000
looking up his brother walks up

1450
00:50:57,109 --> 00:50:55,920
looks at it this youngest brother name

1451
00:50:59,190 --> 00:50:57,119
is claude

1452
00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:59,200
claude is the smarter the two brothers

1453
00:51:01,750 --> 00:51:00,720
he says man i don't know what put that

1454
00:51:04,069 --> 00:51:01,760
up there but uh

1455
00:51:05,910 --> 00:51:04,079
we probably need to leave it up there

1456
00:51:07,670 --> 00:51:05,920
and they have this discussion

1457
00:51:08,950 --> 00:51:07,680
the older brother wins out they climb up

1458
00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:08,960
the tree to try and kick

1459
00:51:13,829 --> 00:51:12,319
this deer out of the tree i paused right

1460
00:51:16,069 --> 00:51:13,839
there i said man

1461
00:51:17,829 --> 00:51:16,079
you know i heard a lot of stories and

1462
00:51:19,510 --> 00:51:17,839
the number one number one question that

1463
00:51:20,549 --> 00:51:19,520
anybody would ask you at this point in

1464
00:51:22,950 --> 00:51:20,559
time is

1465
00:51:24,950 --> 00:51:22,960
what possesses you to climb up a tree

1466
00:51:27,030 --> 00:51:24,960
after a deer that's been wedging a tree

1467
00:51:30,549 --> 00:51:27,040
how high up in the tree was this this

1468
00:51:33,030 --> 00:51:30,559
deer he was like 18 to 20 feet i said 18

1469
00:51:36,069 --> 00:51:33,040
to 20 feet i said okay

1470
00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:36,079
people tell stories i'll give them i'll

1471
00:51:39,910 --> 00:51:38,880
give them 12 to 13 feet but he says 18

1472
00:51:43,270 --> 00:51:39,920
to 20 feet

1473
00:51:45,430 --> 00:51:43,280
so they climb up the tree

1474
00:51:46,390 --> 00:51:45,440
and the older brother is trying to kick

1475
00:51:48,870 --> 00:51:46,400
the deer that's

1476
00:51:50,710 --> 00:51:48,880
wedged between the two limbs out of the

1477
00:51:52,390 --> 00:51:50,720
tree he's literally with his foot trying

1478
00:51:53,910 --> 00:51:52,400
to kick it loose

1479
00:51:55,589 --> 00:51:53,920
the younger brother claude is up on

1480
00:51:55,990 --> 00:51:55,599
another limb and he's watching his

1481
00:52:02,549 --> 00:51:56,000
brother

1482
00:52:03,270 --> 00:52:02,559
into another tree and completely freaks

1483
00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:03,280
out

1484
00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:06,960
now what he sees

1485
00:52:11,430 --> 00:52:09,839
and how he sees it and and how

1486
00:52:12,790 --> 00:52:11,440
everything else transpires from there

1487
00:52:14,549 --> 00:52:12,800
the story is coming from the older

1488
00:52:15,190 --> 00:52:14,559
brothers so he tells me he says hey man

1489
00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:15,200
you know

1490
00:52:19,349 --> 00:52:18,480
i'm looking at claude and claude is his

1491
00:52:22,630 --> 00:52:19,359
eyes are

1492
00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:22,640
are wide open his face is red he's

1493
00:52:25,829 --> 00:52:23,520
sweating

1494
00:52:26,950 --> 00:52:25,839
and he's kind of he's he's not breathing

1495
00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:26,960
hard but

1496
00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:28,800
the heart's beating fast his chest is

1497
00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:30,720
moving fast he said i'm like man what

1498
00:52:33,589 --> 00:52:32,240
the hell is wrong with you

1499
00:52:35,430 --> 00:52:33,599
and he says his brother just points at

1500
00:52:36,309 --> 00:52:35,440
the tree and when he looks over there's

1501
00:52:38,870 --> 00:52:36,319
this creature

1502
00:52:39,670 --> 00:52:38,880
in the tree 10 to 15 feet higher than

1503
00:52:41,829 --> 00:52:39,680
them

1504
00:52:43,270 --> 00:52:41,839
on a limb and he said that it was

1505
00:52:45,829 --> 00:52:43,280
squatted down

1506
00:52:46,710 --> 00:52:45,839
with its feet like you imagine squatting

1507
00:52:47,990 --> 00:52:46,720
down on the ground

1508
00:52:50,069 --> 00:52:48,000
like you would just squat where you're

1509
00:52:50,710 --> 00:52:50,079
on the balls of your feet said squat it

1510
00:52:53,270 --> 00:52:50,720
down on a

1511
00:52:54,790 --> 00:52:53,280
pretty sizable tree limb but close to

1512
00:52:57,430 --> 00:52:54,800
the trunk of the tree

1513
00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:57,440
one hand on its knee the other hand or

1514
00:53:00,470 --> 00:52:59,040
the other claw whatever

1515
00:53:02,069 --> 00:53:00,480
how he described it's other claw he said

1516
00:53:02,870 --> 00:53:02,079
well the other whatever it is is his

1517
00:53:04,630 --> 00:53:02,880
exact words

1518
00:53:06,470 --> 00:53:04,640
he said one hand on his knee or whatever

1519
00:53:07,910 --> 00:53:06,480
it was the other thing was

1520
00:53:09,349 --> 00:53:07,920
holding on to the tree and it's just

1521
00:53:11,030 --> 00:53:09,359
standing there looking at us i mean

1522
00:53:13,670 --> 00:53:11,040
squatted down looking at it

1523
00:53:16,549 --> 00:53:13,680
and i said okay what goes through your

1524
00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:16,559
mind when something like this happens

1525
00:53:19,990 --> 00:53:18,160
he's like man i didn't know what to

1526
00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:20,000
think he said i'm thinking that maybe

1527
00:53:23,589 --> 00:53:21,599
it's a movie problem

1528
00:53:25,109 --> 00:53:23,599
joke i'm thinking you know i can't be

1529
00:53:26,829 --> 00:53:25,119
seeing this

1530
00:53:29,589 --> 00:53:26,839
and i said what did your brother call it

1531
00:53:31,829 --> 00:53:29,599
say he said claude was like man i don't

1532
00:53:34,710 --> 00:53:31,839
know what that is but we need to go

1533
00:53:36,150 --> 00:53:34,720
so they're watching this creature look

1534
00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:36,160
at them they're looking at it

1535
00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:38,160
it starts to look at them look at their

1536
00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:39,359
look at them look at the deal look at

1537
00:53:43,430 --> 00:53:40,960
them look at the deer right

1538
00:53:44,549 --> 00:53:43,440
and i'm like what do you think that

1539
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:44,559
means

1540
00:53:49,190 --> 00:53:46,800
he says well i think it was telling us

1541
00:53:51,750 --> 00:53:49,200
that that was his dear

1542
00:53:52,870 --> 00:53:51,760
so i hit him with this question because

1543
00:53:54,710 --> 00:53:52,880
this is how i could tell

1544
00:53:56,549 --> 00:53:54,720
you know because there's these crazy dog

1545
00:53:58,230 --> 00:53:56,559
man people right who think that dog man

1546
00:53:59,430 --> 00:53:58,240
can communicate telepathically with them

1547
00:54:01,750 --> 00:53:59,440
so i said well

1548
00:54:03,589 --> 00:54:01,760
you know dog man is known to communicate

1549
00:54:04,309 --> 00:54:03,599
telepathically with people and send them

1550
00:54:05,829 --> 00:54:04,319
messages

1551
00:54:07,430 --> 00:54:05,839
did it talk to you in your head and

1552
00:54:08,950 --> 00:54:07,440
maybe i said it like a smart

1553
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:08,960
you know i forgot i can't curse like a

1554
00:54:11,670 --> 00:54:09,930
smart behind but

1555
00:54:13,430 --> 00:54:11,680
[Laughter]

1556
00:54:14,790 --> 00:54:13,440
but i just wanted to see if these guys

1557
00:54:16,950 --> 00:54:14,800
were crazy

1558
00:54:19,270 --> 00:54:16,960
and he completely slips out and he

1559
00:54:21,270 --> 00:54:19,280
curses he says no man are you crazy

1560
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:21,280
it's looking at me and it's looking at

1561
00:54:24,630 --> 00:54:23,200
the deer it's looking at us and it's

1562
00:54:27,910 --> 00:54:24,640
looking at the deer it's looking

1563
00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:27,920
like that's my food that belongs to me

1564
00:54:32,230 --> 00:54:30,480
leave it alone and i'm like why would it

1565
00:54:34,230 --> 00:54:32,240
wedge it up in the tree i mean

1566
00:54:35,270 --> 00:54:34,240
that left it right there where it was

1567
00:54:36,549 --> 00:54:35,280
and just did that

1568
00:54:37,910 --> 00:54:36,559
he was like i don't know what it looked

1569
00:54:39,349 --> 00:54:37,920
like i could read the creature's mind

1570
00:54:42,069 --> 00:54:39,359
all i'm telling you is what happened

1571
00:54:43,670 --> 00:54:42,079
so he really bucks and i gets this you

1572
00:54:45,670 --> 00:54:43,680
know he gets an attitude about it

1573
00:54:47,430 --> 00:54:45,680
which is fine because it just depends on

1574
00:54:48,630 --> 00:54:47,440
that person's personality that you're

1575
00:54:51,270 --> 00:54:48,640
talking to

1576
00:54:52,950 --> 00:54:51,280
if they're an alpha male personality

1577
00:54:54,710 --> 00:54:52,960
that's how they tend to react if they're

1578
00:54:56,789 --> 00:54:54,720
beta male personality they tend to kind

1579
00:54:58,150 --> 00:54:56,799
of go back into their little cage and

1580
00:55:00,230 --> 00:54:58,160
hide in the corner because they feel

1581
00:55:01,589 --> 00:55:00,240
like you're attacked so he kind of

1582
00:55:03,349 --> 00:55:01,599
lashed out and i said okay well

1583
00:55:04,950 --> 00:55:03,359
you know based on everything he told me

1584
00:55:07,030 --> 00:55:04,960
this is consistent with the personality

1585
00:55:09,589 --> 00:55:07,040
type that i know i'm dealing with

1586
00:55:10,950 --> 00:55:09,599
so i said well what happens next he said

1587
00:55:11,349 --> 00:55:10,960
man this thing jumped down out of the

1588
00:55:13,109 --> 00:55:11,359
tree

1589
00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:13,119
i said so i'm testing him again i said

1590
00:55:15,910 --> 00:55:15,040
so it's 20 feet now and he's like no i

1591
00:55:18,069 --> 00:55:15,920
told you man

1592
00:55:20,950 --> 00:55:18,079
it's 10 to 15 feet above us he said it's

1593
00:55:22,470 --> 00:55:20,960
like 35 36 feet in the air i said well

1594
00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:22,480
it jumps down he's like yeah i said well

1595
00:55:25,750 --> 00:55:23,040
how do i

1596
00:55:27,589 --> 00:55:25,760
how was the most he says man this thing

1597
00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:27,599
kind of leaned forward

1598
00:55:31,430 --> 00:55:29,920
and jumped out the tree and he said when

1599
00:55:33,109 --> 00:55:31,440
it landed to the ground it hit the

1600
00:55:35,030 --> 00:55:33,119
ground he said it sounded like 15 16

1601
00:55:37,030 --> 00:55:35,040
bowling balls hitting the ground at once

1602
00:55:38,870 --> 00:55:37,040
he said it landed with one knee down one

1603
00:55:40,390 --> 00:55:38,880
hand down and it stood up

1604
00:55:41,910 --> 00:55:40,400
and i was like like superman he's like

1605
00:55:43,190 --> 00:55:41,920
you know how superman does in the movies

1606
00:55:44,710 --> 00:55:43,200
where he lands on the ground

1607
00:55:47,109 --> 00:55:44,720
with his fists in the ground like yeah

1608
00:55:48,549 --> 00:55:47,119
that's how it landed but it's fan flat

1609
00:55:50,390 --> 00:55:48,559
on the ground and then it stood up and

1610
00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:50,400
it looked up at us in the tree

1611
00:55:54,549 --> 00:55:53,440
i'm like so what are you guys doing and

1612
00:55:55,990 --> 00:55:54,559
i keep in mind this is a part of the

1613
00:55:57,510 --> 00:55:56,000
story i left out

1614
00:55:59,190 --> 00:55:57,520
because i that's just a part of

1615
00:56:00,950 --> 00:55:59,200
storytelling before they climbed up the

1616
00:56:02,230 --> 00:56:00,960
tree these two clowns left their rifles

1617
00:56:03,670 --> 00:56:02,240
on the ground

1618
00:56:05,349 --> 00:56:03,680
from wife was leaning up against the

1619
00:56:07,910 --> 00:56:05,359
truck

1620
00:56:09,349 --> 00:56:07,920
they did and and that was what my

1621
00:56:10,789 --> 00:56:09,359
thought process was you know why would

1622
00:56:12,630 --> 00:56:10,799
you do something like but at the same

1623
00:56:14,870 --> 00:56:12,640
time

1624
00:56:16,150 --> 00:56:14,880
i don't know i'm not in a situation so

1625
00:56:18,390 --> 00:56:16,160
anyway the young

1626
00:56:20,470 --> 00:56:18,400
the brother claude is like hey i'm

1627
00:56:22,309 --> 00:56:20,480
getting down out of this tree

1628
00:56:23,589 --> 00:56:22,319
the dog man is looking at them looking

1629
00:56:24,950 --> 00:56:23,599
at the deal looking them at them looking

1630
00:56:25,750 --> 00:56:24,960
at this he cursed and said hey you can

1631
00:56:27,349 --> 00:56:25,760
have this m

1632
00:56:29,670 --> 00:56:27,359
f and deer if you want it we're about to

1633
00:56:29,990 --> 00:56:29,680
go he starts climbing down a tree picks

1634
00:56:31,829 --> 00:56:30,000
up his

1635
00:56:33,430 --> 00:56:31,839
rifle the other brother looks down and

1636
00:56:34,950 --> 00:56:33,440
sees his brother with the rifle and he's

1637
00:56:35,750 --> 00:56:34,960
thinking okay we're going to shoot this

1638
00:56:38,870 --> 00:56:35,760
thing

1639
00:56:39,190 --> 00:56:38,880
he gets down grabs his gun goes to point

1640
00:56:40,630 --> 00:56:39,200
it

1641
00:56:42,390 --> 00:56:40,640
his brother says no man don't shoot this

1642
00:56:43,750 --> 00:56:42,400
thing there's nothing we can do

1643
00:56:45,510 --> 00:56:43,760
they both put their rifles on i said

1644
00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:45,520
well you know most people in these

1645
00:56:48,950 --> 00:56:47,760
under these circumstances they feel like

1646
00:56:50,309 --> 00:56:48,960
the only thing they can do to protect

1647
00:56:51,270 --> 00:56:50,319
themselves when they have a gun is take

1648
00:56:53,030 --> 00:56:51,280
a shot

1649
00:56:54,549 --> 00:56:53,040
he says man i can tell you right now

1650
00:56:56,950 --> 00:56:54,559
shooting at this thing

1651
00:56:58,470 --> 00:56:56,960
would have done absolutely nothing yeah

1652
00:56:59,990 --> 00:56:58,480
they would have done absolutely nothing

1653
00:57:01,670 --> 00:57:00,000
he said it was done nothing but pissed

1654
00:57:03,829 --> 00:57:01,680
it off so you know what we did

1655
00:57:04,870 --> 00:57:03,839
we backed on out of there and we slowly

1656
00:57:06,390 --> 00:57:04,880
got away

1657
00:57:07,910 --> 00:57:06,400
so these two guys and i'm not going to

1658
00:57:09,109 --> 00:57:07,920
call them clowns because these nice

1659
00:57:12,069 --> 00:57:09,119
gentlemen but

1660
00:57:12,789 --> 00:57:12,079
in the sense of their what they did was

1661
00:57:14,309 --> 00:57:12,799
foolish so

1662
00:57:15,990 --> 00:57:14,319
in that sense guys you if you're

1663
00:57:18,549 --> 00:57:16,000
listening you were being clowns because

1664
00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:18,559
you should have never done this

1665
00:57:21,750 --> 00:57:20,240
these two crowds leave they stay away

1666
00:57:23,750 --> 00:57:21,760
for a little while

1667
00:57:27,030 --> 00:57:23,760
deciding i'll go back to that very same

1668
00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:27,040
area to go hunting again

1669
00:57:30,789 --> 00:57:29,280
this time they set up tree stands but

1670
00:57:32,390 --> 00:57:30,799
they set the tree stands up

1671
00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:32,400
to where they're an eye shot of each

1672
00:57:35,510 --> 00:57:33,839
other where they can see each other

1673
00:57:37,190 --> 00:57:35,520
another deer runs out they shoot the

1674
00:57:39,510 --> 00:57:37,200
deer deer runs off

1675
00:57:41,430 --> 00:57:39,520
as it runs off like it normally does

1676
00:57:42,950 --> 00:57:41,440
they start hearing this growling sound

1677
00:57:44,549 --> 00:57:42,960
coming from the tree line that's a

1678
00:57:47,030 --> 00:57:44,559
little bit further away

1679
00:57:49,190 --> 00:57:47,040
they look at each other hop down run

1680
00:57:51,990 --> 00:57:49,200
back to the truck get in and leave

1681
00:57:54,069 --> 00:57:52,000
they get back home and they talk their

1682
00:57:55,430 --> 00:57:54,079
friends into going back with them to get

1683
00:57:56,870 --> 00:57:55,440
their tree stands

1684
00:57:58,470 --> 00:57:56,880
and i was like you know i was like dude

1685
00:58:00,549 --> 00:57:58,480
how much does a tree stand cost that you

1686
00:58:01,829 --> 00:58:00,559
need to go back in that situation

1687
00:58:03,430 --> 00:58:01,839
i know that these things were that

1688
00:58:04,630 --> 00:58:03,440
expensive because i don't hunt i mean

1689
00:58:06,309 --> 00:58:04,640
these 250

1690
00:58:08,390 --> 00:58:06,319
dollar tree stands we're gonna go i mean

1691
00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:08,400
street thing in tree stands it's the

1692
00:58:11,270 --> 00:58:09,359
kind that you

1693
00:58:13,349 --> 00:58:11,280
you hook up onto the trunk of a tree and

1694
00:58:13,910 --> 00:58:13,359
you sit on it like again i don't hunt

1695
00:58:15,430 --> 00:58:13,920
but

1696
00:58:17,030 --> 00:58:15,440
you know they they wrap around and treat

1697
00:58:18,630 --> 00:58:17,040
some kind of when they sit on them so

1698
00:58:20,549 --> 00:58:18,640
right it's like these are real expensive

1699
00:58:22,150 --> 00:58:20,559
we wanted them back so they get

1700
00:58:24,150 --> 00:58:22,160
themselves and three other friends to go

1701
00:58:25,190 --> 00:58:24,160
back so now it's five of them they go

1702
00:58:28,309 --> 00:58:25,200
out there these things

1703
00:58:31,510 --> 00:58:28,319
are not torn the stress but they're bent

1704
00:58:34,069 --> 00:58:31,520
up twisted turned around on a tree

1705
00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:34,079
the the tree that the oldest brother was

1706
00:58:37,910 --> 00:58:34,720
in

1707
00:58:39,430 --> 00:58:37,920
the tree

1708
00:58:41,270 --> 00:58:39,440
so now their friends are out there

1709
00:58:43,109 --> 00:58:41,280
friends are like man well you know

1710
00:58:45,190 --> 00:58:43,119
what exactly was out here when you guys

1711
00:58:47,109 --> 00:58:45,200
were here because ain't no deer doing

1712
00:58:49,349 --> 00:58:47,119
this

1713
00:58:50,390 --> 00:58:49,359
they leave haven't gone back not going

1714
00:58:52,069 --> 00:58:50,400
back anymore

1715
00:58:53,670 --> 00:58:52,079
in fact they decide to start hunting in

1716
00:58:55,109 --> 00:58:53,680
a whole nother state that's how serious

1717
00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:55,119
they are about not encountering anything

1718
00:58:57,670 --> 00:58:55,839
again

1719
00:58:59,349 --> 00:58:57,680
and that's one of the latest dog man and

1720
00:59:02,390 --> 00:58:59,359
comments that i have

1721
00:59:03,910 --> 00:59:02,400
i think that they're telling the truth

1722
00:59:05,670 --> 00:59:03,920
i don't think that they're exaggerating

1723
00:59:08,390 --> 00:59:05,680
at all um

1724
00:59:10,230 --> 00:59:08,400
i talked to them a number of times and i

1725
00:59:13,349 --> 00:59:10,240
just don't feel like they're lying to me

1726
00:59:15,829 --> 00:59:13,359
i feel like i feel like some people

1727
00:59:18,630 --> 00:59:15,839
can't not feel i know that some people

1728
00:59:21,589 --> 00:59:18,640
just can't wrap their minds around

1729
00:59:22,470 --> 00:59:21,599
um the concept of dog man being there

1730
00:59:27,270 --> 00:59:22,480
yeah

1731
00:59:28,710 --> 00:59:27,280
and then also some people's ego

1732
00:59:30,710 --> 00:59:28,720
and this is something that i think this

1733
00:59:33,270 --> 00:59:30,720
is something that's common to

1734
00:59:35,430 --> 00:59:33,280
the the natures outdoors men because

1735
00:59:37,829 --> 00:59:35,440
these outdoorsmen i talked to

1736
00:59:39,349 --> 00:59:37,839
it's this bravado like nothing's gonna

1737
00:59:41,750 --> 00:59:39,359
run me out of my area

1738
00:59:43,349 --> 00:59:41,760
and that's something i understand but

1739
00:59:44,950 --> 00:59:43,359
that was the one thing that

1740
00:59:46,470 --> 00:59:44,960
with these two guys that they had this

1741
00:59:47,829 --> 00:59:46,480
bravado like man this thing is not gonna

1742
00:59:50,309 --> 00:59:47,839
run us to our area

1743
00:59:50,950 --> 00:59:50,319
you know we had this encounter and we're

1744
00:59:53,750 --> 00:59:50,960
gonna go

1745
00:59:55,349 --> 00:59:53,760
it was kind of like they had to it was

1746
00:59:56,309 --> 00:59:55,359
like they were lying to themselves like

1747
00:59:58,390 --> 00:59:56,319
they weren't afraid

1748
01:00:00,230 --> 00:59:58,400
but they were but they had i guess it

1749
01:00:02,390 --> 01:00:00,240
was like you scared me but i got to go

1750
01:00:03,910 --> 01:00:02,400
back for my own sake

1751
01:00:05,750 --> 01:00:03,920
i don't know it's freaky it's kind of

1752
01:00:06,950 --> 01:00:05,760
like if i guess if you let something run

1753
01:00:07,990 --> 01:00:06,960
you out of the woods you never go in the

1754
01:00:10,390 --> 01:00:08,000
woods again

1755
01:00:11,270 --> 01:00:10,400
and that was their that was their thing

1756
01:00:14,549 --> 01:00:11,280
so

1757
01:00:16,789 --> 01:00:14,559
well you know we we've received a lot of

1758
01:00:17,750 --> 01:00:16,799
these upright canine dog man reports

1759
01:00:19,270 --> 01:00:17,760
where

1760
01:00:21,190 --> 01:00:19,280
the people have had guns with them

1761
01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:21,200
they're hunters and

1762
01:00:25,750 --> 01:00:23,760
none of them take a shot at it because i

1763
01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:25,760
don't know if it's a fright thing

1764
01:00:31,190 --> 01:00:29,200
or they just think that like you said

1765
01:00:32,710 --> 01:00:31,200
the shot's not gonna help that much

1766
01:00:34,549 --> 01:00:32,720
this thing coming after it's coming

1767
01:00:36,710 --> 01:00:34,559
after you know what i mean

1768
01:00:39,589 --> 01:00:36,720
so uh it does happen i mean the

1769
01:00:42,309 --> 01:00:39,599
reactions we have had from people

1770
01:00:44,069 --> 01:00:42,319
are are pretty interesting i mean you

1771
01:00:47,349 --> 01:00:44,079
know

1772
01:00:50,470 --> 01:00:47,359
uh message

1773
01:00:53,589 --> 01:00:50,480
me messaged us

1774
01:00:55,270 --> 01:00:53,599
on um on skype and said we need to talk

1775
01:00:58,710 --> 01:00:55,280
to you or ask you about

1776
01:01:00,150 --> 01:00:58,720
your vampire stories

1777
01:01:01,670 --> 01:01:00,160
yeah i'd be more than happy to tell you

1778
01:01:03,109 --> 01:01:01,680
i'm not telling those vampire stories

1779
01:01:06,870 --> 01:01:03,119
and i'll tell you why

1780
01:01:09,030 --> 01:01:06,880
um because over the past

1781
01:01:10,069 --> 01:01:09,040
over the past 12 months people have

1782
01:01:11,829 --> 01:01:10,079
consistently

1783
01:01:14,630 --> 01:01:11,839
tried to get me to tell these vampire

1784
01:01:17,750 --> 01:01:14,640
stories that

1785
01:01:18,870 --> 01:01:17,760
um that i stumbled upon

1786
01:01:21,910 --> 01:01:18,880
and i don't know if you guys remember

1787
01:01:23,670 --> 01:01:21,920
way back when i first started my channel

1788
01:01:25,109 --> 01:01:23,680
and i talked too much then because at

1789
01:01:27,190 --> 01:01:25,119
that point in time i just wasn't

1790
01:01:29,270 --> 01:01:27,200
completely convinced of everything i

1791
01:01:31,109 --> 01:01:29,280
knew some of the stuff was 100 real

1792
01:01:33,190 --> 01:01:31,119
i knew some of the stuff was like 80

1793
01:01:35,510 --> 01:01:33,200
real but when it came to the vampire

1794
01:01:37,670 --> 01:01:35,520
thing there was nothing you can tell me

1795
01:01:38,870 --> 01:01:37,680
to convince me that there were people

1796
01:01:40,950 --> 01:01:38,880
who were actual

1797
01:01:42,230 --> 01:01:40,960
vampires and i'm not talking about the

1798
01:01:44,710 --> 01:01:42,240
blood sucking

1799
01:01:45,910 --> 01:01:44,720
vampires the i forgot what they called

1800
01:01:48,390 --> 01:01:45,920
gin swines or

1801
01:01:50,230 --> 01:01:48,400
young swings or whatever the name is but

1802
01:01:51,750 --> 01:01:50,240
there was nothing you can convince me

1803
01:01:53,589 --> 01:01:51,760
that to tell me to convince me that

1804
01:01:57,270 --> 01:01:53,599
there were people who were actual

1805
01:01:59,029 --> 01:01:57,280
vampires until i ran into the

1806
01:02:01,029 --> 01:01:59,039
police officers here in new orleans that

1807
01:02:02,069 --> 01:02:01,039
were working this kind of paranormal

1808
01:02:04,470 --> 01:02:02,079
duty

1809
01:02:06,069 --> 01:02:04,480
and i went on coast to coast and i told

1810
01:02:08,150 --> 01:02:06,079
a couple of those stories about

1811
01:02:09,829 --> 01:02:08,160
their encounters on coast to coast and

1812
01:02:11,190 --> 01:02:09,839
then i started getting a little flack

1813
01:02:13,990 --> 01:02:11,200
and it was a little slack it wasn't

1814
01:02:16,549 --> 01:02:14,000
nothing major um

1815
01:02:18,390 --> 01:02:16,559
then i went through this thing where

1816
01:02:19,270 --> 01:02:18,400
people wanted me to do a tv show called

1817
01:02:22,150 --> 01:02:19,280
dark nights

1818
01:02:23,829 --> 01:02:22,160
and on this tv show they wanted to do

1819
01:02:26,309 --> 01:02:23,839
this ride along with

1820
01:02:28,870 --> 01:02:26,319
the new orleans police department and go

1821
01:02:31,270 --> 01:02:28,880
on these paranormal

1822
01:02:32,230 --> 01:02:31,280
phone calls so we go through the process

1823
01:02:34,390 --> 01:02:32,240
of

1824
01:02:36,150 --> 01:02:34,400
talking to the chief who at that point

1825
01:02:37,349 --> 01:02:36,160
in time was the interim chief

1826
01:02:39,829 --> 01:02:37,359
getting clearance going through the

1827
01:02:42,549 --> 01:02:39,839
mayor's office blah blah blah blah blah

1828
01:02:43,990 --> 01:02:42,559
and two finale sitting down having lunch

1829
01:02:46,470 --> 01:02:44,000
and uh

1830
01:02:48,069 --> 01:02:46,480
chief says look i don't have a problem

1831
01:02:49,829 --> 01:02:48,079
with you guys doing the show i don't

1832
01:02:52,470 --> 01:02:49,839
have problems with doing anything at all

1833
01:02:53,670 --> 01:02:52,480
um i think it's good for the city new

1834
01:02:55,670 --> 01:02:53,680
orleans definitely has a lot of

1835
01:02:57,190 --> 01:02:55,680
paranormal stuff he's like but

1836
01:02:59,190 --> 01:02:57,200
to sit and wait on a call that's

1837
01:03:01,910 --> 01:02:59,200
paranormal they'd be waiting forever

1838
01:03:02,230 --> 01:03:01,920
he's like because um we do get them

1839
01:03:03,670 --> 01:03:02,240
where

1840
01:03:05,510 --> 01:03:03,680
strange things that happen in people's

1841
01:03:08,309 --> 01:03:05,520
houses but it's like

1842
01:03:09,109 --> 01:03:08,319
it's not like you know they call every

1843
01:03:11,270 --> 01:03:09,119
day

1844
01:03:12,630 --> 01:03:11,280
right so we go into this whole

1845
01:03:15,190 --> 01:03:12,640
conversation about the

1846
01:03:16,950 --> 01:03:15,200
the gentleman who ended up having kind

1847
01:03:18,549 --> 01:03:16,960
of that stigma of dealing with

1848
01:03:19,910 --> 01:03:18,559
paranormal stuff

1849
01:03:21,430 --> 01:03:19,920
and at this point in time he's interim

1850
01:03:22,870 --> 01:03:21,440
so he's new so he's like i don't know

1851
01:03:24,470 --> 01:03:22,880
much about that but

1852
01:03:27,190 --> 01:03:24,480
you can go ahead and talk to a couple of

1853
01:03:29,990 --> 01:03:27,200
the guys who've been on the force longer

1854
01:03:31,750 --> 01:03:30,000
talk to those guys we build a good

1855
01:03:33,750 --> 01:03:31,760
rapport

1856
01:03:35,430 --> 01:03:33,760
and they start telling me this vampire

1857
01:03:37,990 --> 01:03:35,440
story

1858
01:03:39,029 --> 01:03:38,000
they tell me i want to say 95 percent of

1859
01:03:40,630 --> 01:03:39,039
the story

1860
01:03:42,470 --> 01:03:40,640
and it's like well you know let's think

1861
01:03:43,109 --> 01:03:42,480
about this before you share any more of

1862
01:03:45,430 --> 01:03:43,119
it

1863
01:03:46,630 --> 01:03:45,440
a couple days later i get a phone call

1864
01:03:48,069 --> 01:03:46,640
says look man

1865
01:03:49,589 --> 01:03:48,079
don't share those vampire stories

1866
01:03:51,109 --> 01:03:49,599
anything else we've ever told you you

1867
01:03:51,990 --> 01:03:51,119
can tell but don't share the vampire

1868
01:03:54,870 --> 01:03:52,000
stories

1869
01:03:56,069 --> 01:03:54,880
i say well why he says well the vampires

1870
01:03:58,630 --> 01:03:56,079
aren't what you think they are

1871
01:04:00,069 --> 01:03:58,640
they aren't blood sucking people who

1872
01:04:01,029 --> 01:04:00,079
break in your house at night and stand

1873
01:04:03,109 --> 01:04:01,039
over your bed

1874
01:04:04,309 --> 01:04:03,119
he was like it's a psychic form of

1875
01:04:06,230 --> 01:04:04,319
vaporism

1876
01:04:07,990 --> 01:04:06,240
where they actually drain your blood

1877
01:04:09,029 --> 01:04:08,000
they drain your psychic energy and your

1878
01:04:10,549 --> 01:04:09,039
life force

1879
01:04:12,069 --> 01:04:10,559
and he was like and these people have

1880
01:04:13,829 --> 01:04:12,079
been here a very very long

1881
01:04:15,510 --> 01:04:13,839
time i'm like well how long are we

1882
01:04:16,150 --> 01:04:15,520
talking about he was like let me give

1883
01:04:19,190 --> 01:04:16,160
you a crash

1884
01:04:21,829 --> 01:04:19,200
course on on this and so he goes into

1885
01:04:23,430 --> 01:04:21,839
how our mardi gras clubs he named

1886
01:04:25,430 --> 01:04:23,440
four of the mardi gras clubs that are

1887
01:04:26,069 --> 01:04:25,440
here and he named a couple of people in

1888
01:04:28,789 --> 01:04:26,079
those clubs

1889
01:04:30,950 --> 01:04:28,799
that he knows for a fact are these

1890
01:04:32,710 --> 01:04:30,960
psychic vampires and he's like so

1891
01:04:34,870 --> 01:04:32,720
when you start talking about the most

1892
01:04:37,910 --> 01:04:34,880
powerful people in the city

1893
01:04:38,950 --> 01:04:37,920
people who are huge donors to political

1894
01:04:40,710 --> 01:04:38,960
campaigns

1895
01:04:43,270 --> 01:04:40,720
people behind the scenes that pull the

1896
01:04:44,789 --> 01:04:43,280
strings this is what they are

1897
01:04:45,990 --> 01:04:44,799
and he was like you don't want to be in

1898
01:04:47,349 --> 01:04:46,000
you don't want to tangle with those

1899
01:04:48,470 --> 01:04:47,359
people you don't want those kind of

1900
01:04:49,910 --> 01:04:48,480
problems

1901
01:04:52,069 --> 01:04:49,920
so i start using because i have

1902
01:04:53,430 --> 01:04:52,079
extensive network here in the city so i

1903
01:04:56,230 --> 01:04:53,440
started doing a little

1904
01:04:58,390 --> 01:04:56,240
digging called a couple friends of mine

1905
01:05:00,150 --> 01:04:58,400
who are judges and i start off trying to

1906
01:05:01,670 --> 01:05:00,160
find out who's giving money to who based

1907
01:05:02,470 --> 01:05:01,680
on those names turns out that those

1908
01:05:05,029 --> 01:05:02,480
names

1909
01:05:06,950 --> 01:05:05,039
actually had given like in the last

1910
01:05:09,510 --> 01:05:06,960
mayor's race i mean

1911
01:05:10,870 --> 01:05:09,520
extremely large sums of money and the

1912
01:05:12,230 --> 01:05:10,880
way political donations are done in

1913
01:05:13,829 --> 01:05:12,240
louisiana is

1914
01:05:15,430 --> 01:05:13,839
you can give twenty five hundred dollars

1915
01:05:16,870 --> 01:05:15,440
per person twenty five hundred dollars

1916
01:05:18,470 --> 01:05:16,880
per corporation so

1917
01:05:20,309 --> 01:05:18,480
you and your wife can get five thousand

1918
01:05:21,910 --> 01:05:20,319
dollars as a family if you got one

1919
01:05:23,190 --> 01:05:21,920
company you can give another twenty five

1920
01:05:24,230 --> 01:05:23,200
hundred dollars you got another company

1921
01:05:24,710 --> 01:05:24,240
you can give another twenty five hundred

1922
01:05:26,150 --> 01:05:24,720
dollars

1923
01:05:27,270 --> 01:05:26,160
but then you go and you start doing the

1924
01:05:29,270 --> 01:05:27,280
research and you find that these guys

1925
01:05:31,109 --> 01:05:29,280
have 50 60 companies set up

1926
01:05:32,870 --> 01:05:31,119
because each corporation is its own

1927
01:05:33,990 --> 01:05:32,880
private entity and all those

1928
01:05:36,950 --> 01:05:34,000
corporations

1929
01:05:37,750 --> 01:05:36,960
were giving donations so you're like

1930
01:05:40,549 --> 01:05:37,760
okay

1931
01:05:42,950 --> 01:05:40,559
this is you i know how power works in

1932
01:05:46,230 --> 01:05:42,960
the city i'm fine with that but

1933
01:05:48,309 --> 01:05:46,240
when you take that bit of truth and you

1934
01:05:50,630 --> 01:05:48,319
mix it in what i'm already being told by

1935
01:05:52,230 --> 01:05:50,640
the police officer and i'm like okay

1936
01:05:53,190 --> 01:05:52,240
this is something i really really don't

1937
01:05:54,470 --> 01:05:53,200
want to get into

1938
01:05:56,470 --> 01:05:54,480
and he's like man those people can make

1939
01:05:58,470 --> 01:05:56,480
your life a living hell

1940
01:06:00,549 --> 01:05:58,480
an absolute living hell they have access

1941
01:06:02,069 --> 01:06:00,559
to all intel all information

1942
01:06:03,990 --> 01:06:02,079
and they have power rising all the way

1943
01:06:06,470 --> 01:06:04,000
up to washington dc leave it alone and

1944
01:06:08,470 --> 01:06:06,480
so i left it alone you know because

1945
01:06:09,910 --> 01:06:08,480
unfortunately for people who are fans

1946
01:06:10,549 --> 01:06:09,920
and family members of the dark waters

1947
01:06:12,710 --> 01:06:10,559
channel

1948
01:06:13,670 --> 01:06:12,720
for them is just kind of telling a story

1949
01:06:16,150 --> 01:06:13,680
and it's

1950
01:06:17,910 --> 01:06:16,160
um it's entertainment but you know for

1951
01:06:19,109 --> 01:06:17,920
you guys you guys gotta investigate you

1952
01:06:20,870 --> 01:06:19,119
know that there's some stuff you guys

1953
01:06:22,630 --> 01:06:20,880
went out on investigations on

1954
01:06:23,829 --> 01:06:22,640
that although it's entertaining to tell

1955
01:06:25,029 --> 01:06:23,839
it wasn't entertaining when you

1956
01:06:29,190 --> 01:06:25,039
encountered it

1957
01:06:30,150 --> 01:06:29,200
so all right that's true you know

1958
01:06:32,309 --> 01:06:30,160
you know what i'm saying so it's

1959
01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:32,319
entertaining when it's all said and done

1960
01:06:35,829 --> 01:06:34,000
but man that's not entertaining when i'm

1961
01:06:38,150 --> 01:06:35,839
dealing with that so i don't

1962
01:06:40,230 --> 01:06:38,160
i don't tell those vampire stories i

1963
01:06:42,789 --> 01:06:40,240
started to tell one or two

1964
01:06:44,309 --> 01:06:42,799
and then you know the angel on my

1965
01:06:45,670 --> 01:06:44,319
shoulder slapped me across the head and

1966
01:06:46,309 --> 01:06:45,680
said are you crazy you're not telling

1967
01:06:48,549 --> 01:06:46,319
that story

1968
01:06:49,349 --> 01:06:48,559
you don't need those kind of problems so

1969
01:06:50,870 --> 01:06:49,359
no i'm not

1970
01:06:53,190 --> 01:06:50,880
sharing those vampire stories because

1971
01:06:56,230 --> 01:06:53,200
it's that's dangerous for my

1972
01:06:59,990 --> 01:06:56,240
well-being um

1973
01:07:04,069 --> 01:07:00,000
yeah i mean i can understand that i mean

1974
01:07:07,589 --> 01:07:04,079
i had run across a while back

1975
01:07:09,349 --> 01:07:07,599
a person who considered himself as a

1976
01:07:11,750 --> 01:07:09,359
psychic vampire

1977
01:07:13,430 --> 01:07:11,760
and like you i didn't really buy into

1978
01:07:17,270 --> 01:07:13,440
that crap

1979
01:07:19,349 --> 01:07:17,280
at first but uh

1980
01:07:20,549 --> 01:07:19,359
they kind of proved to me that it was

1981
01:07:24,150 --> 01:07:20,559
the real deal

1982
01:07:24,870 --> 01:07:24,160
and uh i didn't associate with them

1983
01:07:29,029 --> 01:07:24,880
anymore

1984
01:07:31,029 --> 01:07:29,039
it's scary because uh you know do you

1985
01:07:33,109 --> 01:07:31,039
i'm not even gonna ask you about i was

1986
01:07:35,190 --> 01:07:33,119
gonna say do you think these psychic

1987
01:07:38,710 --> 01:07:35,200
vampires for the most part

1988
01:07:42,390 --> 01:07:41,670
are they just regular people i have no

1989
01:07:46,309 --> 01:07:42,400
clue

1990
01:07:49,430 --> 01:07:46,319
what i will tell you is this and this

1991
01:07:51,270 --> 01:07:49,440
this is what i'll speculate on okay and

1992
01:07:53,990 --> 01:07:51,280
allow me to jump down the rabbit hole

1993
01:07:54,789 --> 01:07:54,000
for a second new orleans the city of new

1994
01:07:56,630 --> 01:07:54,799
orleans

1995
01:07:58,150 --> 01:07:56,640
has been run by powerful forces for a

1996
01:08:00,710 --> 01:07:58,160
very very long time

1997
01:08:03,109 --> 01:08:00,720
i have i'm 40 years old now i have

1998
01:08:04,789 --> 01:08:03,119
watched those forces move

1999
01:08:06,950 --> 01:08:04,799
around this city around hurricane

2000
01:08:08,630 --> 01:08:06,960
katrina i watch how the city change

2001
01:08:09,829 --> 01:08:08,640
i watch how the city evolved i watch

2002
01:08:11,190 --> 01:08:09,839
people get moved in and out of

2003
01:08:13,349 --> 01:08:11,200
neighborhoods

2004
01:08:14,309 --> 01:08:13,359
um prior to hurricane katrina i was in a

2005
01:08:17,189 --> 01:08:14,319
meeting

2006
01:08:18,229 --> 01:08:17,199
as a young developer where people in

2007
01:08:20,630 --> 01:08:18,239
this meeting

2008
01:08:22,229 --> 01:08:20,640
and this is how i know that you know

2009
01:08:24,870 --> 01:08:22,239
power is something that

2010
01:08:27,669 --> 01:08:24,880
that's long-standing in this meeting

2011
01:08:32,390 --> 01:08:27,679
they were sharing plans with me in

2012
01:08:35,030 --> 01:08:32,400
the year 2000 what in the world was that

2013
01:08:35,430 --> 01:08:35,040
oh okay that was a bird okay all right

2014
01:08:38,789 --> 01:08:35,440
so

2015
01:08:41,829 --> 01:08:38,799
in 2000 um they were sharing

2016
01:08:43,669 --> 01:08:41,839
they were sharing uh plans to literally

2017
01:08:45,749 --> 01:08:43,679
tear down the projects that were around

2018
01:08:48,229 --> 01:08:45,759
the french quarters and around the city

2019
01:08:49,030 --> 01:08:48,239
in order to build uh mixed-use housing

2020
01:08:51,590 --> 01:08:49,040
right

2021
01:08:53,669 --> 01:08:51,600
and in that meeting this was something

2022
01:08:55,669 --> 01:08:53,679
that these people have been planning

2023
01:08:56,789 --> 01:08:55,679
for 50 years and so i'm sitting in the

2024
01:08:57,829 --> 01:08:56,799
meeting and they're explaining to me

2025
01:09:00,470 --> 01:08:57,839
their plan

2026
01:09:02,309 --> 01:09:00,480
to to tear down these projects and build

2027
01:09:04,070 --> 01:09:02,319
those mixed-use housing and i'm like

2028
01:09:06,870 --> 01:09:04,080
you know you guys been playing this for

2029
01:09:09,030 --> 01:09:06,880
50 years and it's like well now the plan

2030
01:09:10,950 --> 01:09:09,040
is a lot older than that but you know

2031
01:09:12,470 --> 01:09:10,960
this is where the city's heading shown

2032
01:09:15,030 --> 01:09:12,480
up hurricane katrina hit

2033
01:09:16,390 --> 01:09:15,040
and that's where the city is now so from

2034
01:09:22,149 --> 01:09:16,400
that perspective

2035
01:09:23,990 --> 01:09:22,159
50-year 60-year hundred-year plans

2036
01:09:26,309 --> 01:09:24,000
those type of people exist who have

2037
01:09:28,149 --> 01:09:26,319
those long-term plans

2038
01:09:29,430 --> 01:09:28,159
if those type of and those are mortal

2039
01:09:31,669 --> 01:09:29,440
people right i'm assuming they're

2040
01:09:33,510 --> 01:09:31,679
mortals so if those people are here

2041
01:09:34,709 --> 01:09:33,520
and they have those kind of game plans

2042
01:09:37,189 --> 01:09:34,719
for their life

2043
01:09:37,990 --> 01:09:37,199
i can only imagine what a per what kind

2044
01:09:41,430 --> 01:09:38,000
of game pers

2045
01:09:42,390 --> 01:09:41,440
plan a person has that um that has life

2046
01:09:44,149 --> 01:09:42,400
extension

2047
01:09:45,829 --> 01:09:44,159
and then when you start talking about

2048
01:09:47,349 --> 01:09:45,839
the true powers that run the world and

2049
01:09:49,269 --> 01:09:47,359
you start talking about the ones who

2050
01:09:50,950 --> 01:09:49,279
actually will the influence across the

2051
01:09:52,470 --> 01:09:50,960
world and across the globe

2052
01:09:54,070 --> 01:09:52,480
it's long been said that those people

2053
01:09:55,830 --> 01:09:54,080
are evil and that they are forms of

2054
01:09:59,110 --> 01:09:55,840
psychic vampires so

2055
01:10:00,149 --> 01:09:59,120
when unfortunately when we start talking

2056
01:10:02,149 --> 01:10:00,159
about that topic

2057
01:10:04,149 --> 01:10:02,159
i think it gets a little bit too real i

2058
01:10:06,310 --> 01:10:04,159
mean i really think it does because

2059
01:10:08,310 --> 01:10:06,320
if you just imagine for a moment that

2060
01:10:09,830 --> 01:10:08,320
let's say someone was immortal and they

2061
01:10:13,030 --> 01:10:09,840
had been around for

2062
01:10:14,470 --> 01:10:13,040
let's give them 300 years right do you

2063
01:10:16,149 --> 01:10:14,480
know what you can accomplish in 300

2064
01:10:17,910 --> 01:10:16,159
years how much you can um wealth and

2065
01:10:19,430 --> 01:10:17,920
power you can imagine 300 years most

2066
01:10:20,149 --> 01:10:19,440
people can do it in a lifetime of 80

2067
01:10:21,750 --> 01:10:20,159
years

2068
01:10:23,270 --> 01:10:21,760
so that's just not something that you

2069
01:10:25,189 --> 01:10:23,280
want to tangle with

2070
01:10:27,189 --> 01:10:25,199
if it is true so why take the chance in

2071
01:10:30,709 --> 01:10:27,199
my opinion it makes no sense to even

2072
01:10:32,310 --> 01:10:30,719
risk it it's dumb i'm not trying to

2073
01:10:34,470 --> 01:10:32,320
hang out with those kind of people well

2074
01:10:36,229 --> 01:10:34,480
you know you've told me about

2075
01:10:38,709 --> 01:10:36,239
what you went through with katrina and

2076
01:10:41,910 --> 01:10:38,719
you know i've talked to a lot of people

2077
01:10:43,750 --> 01:10:41,920
since katrina and

2078
01:10:45,669 --> 01:10:43,760
people that have been in new orleans all

2079
01:10:48,790 --> 01:10:45,679
their life and have seen a lot of

2080
01:10:50,550 --> 01:10:48,800
weird stuff but they tell me and i don't

2081
01:10:51,750 --> 01:10:50,560
know how true this is and that's why i'm

2082
01:10:55,430 --> 01:10:51,760
asking you

2083
01:11:00,709 --> 01:10:55,440
it just seems like the activity

2084
01:11:05,910 --> 01:11:03,750
yeah it did it um

2085
01:11:07,510 --> 01:11:05,920
it it the city became electric after

2086
01:11:11,030 --> 01:11:07,520
katrina

2087
01:11:12,070 --> 01:11:11,040
if it just depends on what the person

2088
01:11:15,350 --> 01:11:12,080
encountered and

2089
01:11:16,550 --> 01:11:15,360
their encounters depend on let me give

2090
01:11:17,669 --> 01:11:16,560
my thoughts together and make sure i say

2091
01:11:19,910 --> 01:11:17,679
this correctly

2092
01:11:20,950 --> 01:11:19,920
what people encountered depended on how

2093
01:11:22,390 --> 01:11:20,960
soon

2094
01:11:24,870 --> 01:11:22,400
they came back to the city of new

2095
01:11:26,149 --> 01:11:24,880
orleans so hurricane katrina hits you

2096
01:11:27,910 --> 01:11:26,159
see all the stuff on the news where they

2097
01:11:29,830 --> 01:11:27,920
got the people that's in the

2098
01:11:31,430 --> 01:11:29,840
superdome inside the superdome they're

2099
01:11:32,870 --> 01:11:31,440
raping robbing killing doing all kind of

2100
01:11:33,590 --> 01:11:32,880
crazy foolishness people are starving to

2101
01:11:35,110 --> 01:11:33,600
death

2102
01:11:37,830 --> 01:11:35,120
all kinds of crazy stuff is going on

2103
01:11:40,470 --> 01:11:37,840
right eventually the city gets evacuated

2104
01:11:42,790 --> 01:11:40,480
and so you cannot come back into the

2105
01:11:45,590 --> 01:11:42,800
city until the water recedes right

2106
01:11:47,910 --> 01:11:45,600
well if you're in certain business lines

2107
01:11:51,030 --> 01:11:47,920
of business you could return to the city

2108
01:11:52,470 --> 01:11:51,040
i.e insurance adjusters um military

2109
01:11:54,709 --> 01:11:52,480
contractors

2110
01:11:55,669 --> 01:11:54,719
people of that nature and they were also

2111
01:11:58,390 --> 01:11:55,679
they were doing

2112
01:12:00,229 --> 01:11:58,400
door-to-door checking houses looking for

2113
01:12:01,510 --> 01:12:00,239
dead bodies looking for survivors

2114
01:12:04,550 --> 01:12:01,520
all the rest of stuff that went on for a

2115
01:12:05,990 --> 01:12:04,560
very long time the people who were here

2116
01:12:08,149 --> 01:12:06,000
afterwards right after the waters

2117
01:12:10,630 --> 01:12:08,159
receded were the people who saw

2118
01:12:12,390 --> 01:12:10,640
the absolute craziest stuff now there

2119
01:12:14,550 --> 01:12:12,400
were people who saw crazy stuff

2120
01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:14,560
while they were on the roofs but the

2121
01:12:18,149 --> 01:12:15,520
people who were here

2122
01:12:20,390 --> 01:12:18,159
after the waters rescinded and went down

2123
01:12:21,590 --> 01:12:20,400
they saw some of the craziest crap that

2124
01:12:25,669 --> 01:12:21,600
i've ever heard

2125
01:12:27,750 --> 01:12:25,679
and i literally have probably 50 stories

2126
01:12:29,590 --> 01:12:27,760
of things that happen here in the city

2127
01:12:31,669 --> 01:12:29,600
after hurricane katrina from military

2128
01:12:33,830 --> 01:12:31,679
contractors killing people to the

2129
01:12:35,430 --> 01:12:33,840
military itself the national guard

2130
01:12:38,310 --> 01:12:35,440
shooting people to

2131
01:12:40,470 --> 01:12:38,320
people seeing um children of ghost

2132
01:12:42,470 --> 01:12:40,480
children walking out of houses

2133
01:12:44,310 --> 01:12:42,480
the military contractors black water in

2134
01:12:45,830 --> 01:12:44,320
particular going into rules cutting in

2135
01:12:49,110 --> 01:12:45,840
the roofs and finding

2136
01:12:51,030 --> 01:12:49,120
you know mothers and sons

2137
01:12:52,550 --> 01:12:51,040
dead bodies huddled together where they

2138
01:12:54,950 --> 01:12:52,560
died

2139
01:12:56,709 --> 01:12:54,960
in the in the attic of the house all

2140
01:12:58,229 --> 01:12:56,719
kinds of crazy stuff happen here at the

2141
01:13:01,830 --> 01:12:58,239
katrina

2142
01:13:06,950 --> 01:13:05,030
that that paranormal activity it

2143
01:13:09,030 --> 01:13:06,960
heightened then

2144
01:13:10,870 --> 01:13:09,040
and i will never i'll never see that it

2145
01:13:12,630 --> 01:13:10,880
goes it's gone away

2146
01:13:14,470 --> 01:13:12,640
but the more and more people find out

2147
01:13:15,910 --> 01:13:14,480
about dark waters and that dark waters

2148
01:13:19,189 --> 01:13:15,920
are from new orleans

2149
01:13:19,830 --> 01:13:19,199
i start to get more stories but there

2150
01:13:22,070 --> 01:13:19,840
are

2151
01:13:24,630 --> 01:13:22,080
they're not based in events that happen

2152
01:13:28,950 --> 01:13:24,640
now they're basing events that happened

2153
01:13:30,790 --> 01:13:28,960
um between 2005 and 2009

2154
01:13:32,790 --> 01:13:30,800
and then i get some stories of things

2155
01:13:37,270 --> 01:13:32,800
that happened 2004

2156
01:13:39,669 --> 01:13:37,280
2003 but it seems like right around 2009

2157
01:13:41,510 --> 01:13:39,679
a lot of those stories stopped coming in

2158
01:13:42,870 --> 01:13:41,520
and i get occasionally i get a story

2159
01:13:44,550 --> 01:13:42,880
where someone is like you know

2160
01:13:45,750 --> 01:13:44,560
i was driving in the car come leaving

2161
01:13:47,590 --> 01:13:45,760
for the french quarters and i saw

2162
01:13:50,550 --> 01:13:47,600
something weird on the side of the road

2163
01:13:51,830 --> 01:13:50,560
blah blah blah blah blah blah but i like

2164
01:13:52,790 --> 01:13:51,840
some of those i throw away because if

2165
01:13:54,070 --> 01:13:52,800
you're leaving for the french quarter

2166
01:13:55,189 --> 01:13:54,080
nine times out of ten you're drunk if

2167
01:13:55,669 --> 01:13:55,199
you're leaving now the french quarters

2168
01:13:57,669 --> 01:13:55,679
that

2169
01:13:59,590 --> 01:13:57,679
you know twelve o'clock at night you're

2170
01:14:00,950 --> 01:13:59,600
not sober even if you work in the french

2171
01:14:02,310 --> 01:14:00,960
quarters you're still drunk because

2172
01:14:04,149 --> 01:14:02,320
that's what you do down there you drink

2173
01:14:07,669 --> 01:14:04,159
while you're on your job so

2174
01:14:09,590 --> 01:14:07,679
um i would give the i would give it 2009

2175
01:14:10,390 --> 01:14:09,600
is when i think things kind of died down

2176
01:14:11,669 --> 01:14:10,400
a bit

2177
01:14:13,350 --> 01:14:11,679
but overall it's still the most

2178
01:14:14,630 --> 01:14:13,360
paranormal active city in the whole

2179
01:14:17,510 --> 01:14:14,640
entire world

2180
01:14:20,709 --> 01:14:17,520
and the the beauty of this is the beauty

2181
01:14:23,669 --> 01:14:22,070
if you understand people when you

2182
01:14:25,030 --> 01:14:23,679
understand new orleanian people or

2183
01:14:26,550 --> 01:14:25,040
people from new orleans

2184
01:14:28,870 --> 01:14:26,560
you understand how to talk to them and

2185
01:14:30,870 --> 01:14:28,880
you understand that

2186
01:14:32,229 --> 01:14:30,880
it becomes a part of a normal

2187
01:14:34,790 --> 01:14:32,239
conversation

2188
01:14:36,229 --> 01:14:34,800
so you know most in most cases when you

2189
01:14:37,430 --> 01:14:36,239
talk to somebody about paranormal you go

2190
01:14:38,709 --> 01:14:37,440
up to say well have you

2191
01:14:39,990 --> 01:14:38,719
have you ever had any paranormal

2192
01:14:40,630 --> 01:14:40,000
experiences they look at you like you're

2193
01:14:42,229 --> 01:14:40,640
crazy

2194
01:14:43,590 --> 01:14:42,239
well if you had a crawfish ball down

2195
01:14:45,030 --> 01:14:43,600
here and you're drinking some beer

2196
01:14:45,990 --> 01:14:45,040
eating some crawfish and you're like man

2197
01:14:47,830 --> 01:14:46,000
you're not gonna believe what happened

2198
01:14:49,510 --> 01:14:47,840
to me the other day

2199
01:14:51,110 --> 01:14:49,520
blah blah blah blah blah happen have you

2200
01:14:52,470 --> 01:14:51,120
ever seen anything like that

2201
01:14:54,790 --> 01:14:52,480
immediately they're gonna go into their

2202
01:14:56,149 --> 01:14:54,800
story yeah man i was out hunting and

2203
01:14:58,790 --> 01:14:56,159
this is what happened

2204
01:14:59,830 --> 01:14:58,800
it's not like people they don't hold it

2205
01:15:02,709 --> 01:14:59,840
in it's not like it's

2206
01:15:03,990 --> 01:15:02,719
taboo and that's the beauty of the city

2207
01:15:05,270 --> 01:15:04,000
if you go anywhere else it's kind of

2208
01:15:05,990 --> 01:15:05,280
like people don't want to talk about it

2209
01:15:07,189 --> 01:15:06,000
but here

2210
01:15:08,950 --> 01:15:07,199
people will talk about it and drop a

2211
01:15:09,590 --> 01:15:08,960
dime you just have to know how to talk

2212
01:15:10,870 --> 01:15:09,600
to

2213
01:15:11,990 --> 01:15:10,880
the people from new orleans and they

2214
01:15:13,510 --> 01:15:12,000
can't be like oh i'm going to

2215
01:15:15,030 --> 01:15:13,520
investigate you just have to be a part

2216
01:15:17,990 --> 01:15:15,040
of casual conversation

2217
01:15:20,310 --> 01:15:18,000
because that's what we do well i'll tell

2218
01:15:25,189 --> 01:15:20,320
you i mean i i had done a series

2219
01:15:27,189 --> 01:15:25,199
of uh of reports from an ex-new orleans

2220
01:15:30,229 --> 01:15:27,199
police officer

2221
01:15:34,470 --> 01:15:30,239
who swore to god that he

2222
01:15:38,149 --> 01:15:34,480
had encountered reptilian military

2223
01:15:40,470 --> 01:15:38,159
in new orleans after katrina

2224
01:15:42,950 --> 01:15:40,480
i've heard that i've actually heard that

2225
01:15:45,350 --> 01:15:42,960
i've heard that from

2226
01:15:47,510 --> 01:15:45,360
from a member of the national guard yeah

2227
01:15:49,189 --> 01:15:47,520
i didn't touch on it

2228
01:15:50,709 --> 01:15:49,199
yeah i didn't touch on that at all

2229
01:15:54,229 --> 01:15:50,719
because i was like that's way

2230
01:15:56,950 --> 01:15:54,239
outside of my wheelhouse um but yeah and

2231
01:15:58,709 --> 01:15:56,960
what i was told was that and he didn't

2232
01:16:00,310 --> 01:15:58,719
say it was reptilian military he said it

2233
01:16:02,709 --> 01:16:00,320
was reptiles that came from

2234
01:16:04,310 --> 01:16:02,719
under the sewers of the streets and was

2235
01:16:06,070 --> 01:16:04,320
actually taking people

2236
01:16:08,149 --> 01:16:06,080
and i was you know i don't know anything

2237
01:16:09,110 --> 01:16:08,159
about reptilians you know that that's

2238
01:16:10,870 --> 01:16:09,120
just

2239
01:16:12,630 --> 01:16:10,880
my mind has enough trouble wrapping

2240
01:16:13,110 --> 01:16:12,640
around the stuff that i deal with day to

2241
01:16:15,030 --> 01:16:13,120
day

2242
01:16:16,790 --> 01:16:15,040
right to try and go and jump down this

2243
01:16:18,310 --> 01:16:16,800
rabbit hole of reptiles like

2244
01:16:19,910 --> 01:16:18,320
what's the name of that tv show that was

2245
01:16:20,709 --> 01:16:19,920
on when i was a kid whether they had the

2246
01:16:21,910 --> 01:16:20,719
was it

2247
01:16:23,990 --> 01:16:21,920
through the tv show where there's like

2248
01:16:25,669 --> 01:16:24,000
these reptile aliens that had human skin

2249
01:16:29,350 --> 01:16:25,679
what was the name of that show

2250
01:16:32,709 --> 01:16:29,360
um god i don't uh v was it v

2251
01:16:35,590 --> 01:16:32,719
it was vegan it was yeah yeah

2252
01:16:36,390 --> 01:16:35,600
i'm not trying to live v i i'm not doing

2253
01:16:39,430 --> 01:16:36,400
that i'm

2254
01:16:40,709 --> 01:16:39,440
my brain is like no if you are a reptile

2255
01:16:42,070 --> 01:16:40,719
and you running around man just run

2256
01:16:43,669 --> 01:16:42,080
around and do what you do leave me don't

2257
01:16:45,030 --> 01:16:43,679
leave me in the hell alone i'm fine with

2258
01:16:45,830 --> 01:16:45,040
that because that's just too much but

2259
01:16:47,350 --> 01:16:45,840
yes

2260
01:16:49,350 --> 01:16:47,360
i've heard that from a guy who's

2261
01:16:50,870 --> 01:16:49,360
national guard here after katrina

2262
01:16:53,510 --> 01:16:50,880
and his thing was yeah man they were

2263
01:16:54,950 --> 01:16:53,520
taking people and i'm like what

2264
01:16:56,550 --> 01:16:54,960
you mean taking people he's like they

2265
01:16:58,550 --> 01:16:56,560
were literally taking people

2266
01:16:59,669 --> 01:16:58,560
um and i ended the conversation to be

2267
01:17:00,470 --> 01:16:59,679
honest with you because it was just too

2268
01:17:03,270 --> 01:17:00,480
much for me

2269
01:17:05,270 --> 01:17:03,280
order for me to know if he was telling

2270
01:17:06,390 --> 01:17:05,280
the truth i know nothing about the topic

2271
01:17:07,830 --> 01:17:06,400
so in order for me to know if he's

2272
01:17:09,270 --> 01:17:07,840
telling the truth or not i had to go

2273
01:17:10,950 --> 01:17:09,280
back research the topic

2274
01:17:12,149 --> 01:17:10,960
find out about what type of reptilians

2275
01:17:14,390 --> 01:17:12,159
there were if there was ever any

2276
01:17:16,149 --> 01:17:14,400
reptilian sightings in new orleans

2277
01:17:17,430 --> 01:17:16,159
uh and i was like that was too much for

2278
01:17:20,070 --> 01:17:17,440
me i'm gonna leave it alone

2279
01:17:21,189 --> 01:17:20,080
and i left it alone all right what's the

2280
01:17:26,950 --> 01:17:21,199
other story that

2281
01:17:29,990 --> 01:17:28,550
the oddest story that i had that came

2282
01:17:33,669 --> 01:17:30,000
out of katrina was this

2283
01:17:36,709 --> 01:17:33,679
um that people were seeing this

2284
01:17:41,110 --> 01:17:36,719
raft they described it as a

2285
01:17:43,750 --> 01:17:41,120
old-time river raft with a lantern on it

2286
01:17:45,510 --> 01:17:43,760
and a small sail that was floating down

2287
01:17:47,990 --> 01:17:45,520
the streets and they would see it

2288
01:17:48,950 --> 01:17:48,000
they would swim up to it and it would

2289
01:17:51,510 --> 01:17:48,960
disappear

2290
01:17:52,950 --> 01:17:51,520
and that was for that was the oddest

2291
01:17:54,550 --> 01:17:52,960
story like

2292
01:17:56,310 --> 01:17:54,560
if you could imagine being in the water

2293
01:17:57,750 --> 01:17:56,320
at night it's pitch black

2294
01:17:59,830 --> 01:17:57,760
there's all kind of crap floating around

2295
01:18:01,430 --> 01:17:59,840
in the water and you see a light

2296
01:18:03,750 --> 01:18:01,440
coming towards you and as you get closer

2297
01:18:04,070 --> 01:18:03,760
and closer you realize that it's a raft

2298
01:18:06,229 --> 01:18:04,080
and

2299
01:18:07,590 --> 01:18:06,239
not a boat but a raft like with wooden

2300
01:18:09,990 --> 01:18:07,600
logs and

2301
01:18:11,910 --> 01:18:10,000
a lantern on it and you're like okay

2302
01:18:13,110 --> 01:18:11,920
this i'm gonna climb up on that and then

2303
01:18:14,149 --> 01:18:13,120
when you get right up on it it

2304
01:18:16,149 --> 01:18:14,159
disappears

2305
01:18:18,390 --> 01:18:16,159
and i i've had six people tell me that

2306
01:18:20,310 --> 01:18:18,400
they encountered that

2307
01:18:21,590 --> 01:18:20,320
that exact same thing they i mean they

2308
01:18:24,870 --> 01:18:21,600
describe it to the t

2309
01:18:25,270 --> 01:18:24,880
one guy um i never forget him telling me

2310
01:18:27,590 --> 01:18:25,280
his story

2311
01:18:29,110 --> 01:18:27,600
he told to me face to face the whole day

2312
01:18:30,229 --> 01:18:29,120
he had been fighting for his life when i

2313
01:18:31,350 --> 01:18:30,239
said the whole day this man had been

2314
01:18:34,149 --> 01:18:31,360
fighting for his life

2315
01:18:35,750 --> 01:18:34,159
from the time he got up that morning

2316
01:18:37,350 --> 01:18:35,760
till that night that man had been

2317
01:18:39,430 --> 01:18:37,360
fighting for his life

2318
01:18:40,470 --> 01:18:39,440
he his first encounter was with two pit

2319
01:18:42,950 --> 01:18:40,480
bulls

2320
01:18:45,030 --> 01:18:42,960
that were trying to kill him and eat him

2321
01:18:47,669 --> 01:18:45,040
his next encounter with um

2322
01:18:49,110 --> 01:18:47,679
was with these two guys that uh that

2323
01:18:49,910 --> 01:18:49,120
tracked him down and tried to chase him

2324
01:18:53,110 --> 01:18:49,920
down

2325
01:18:55,030 --> 01:18:53,120
with a bat with bats and finally he ends

2326
01:18:57,350 --> 01:18:55,040
up in the water

2327
01:18:58,790 --> 01:18:57,360
and he's and i can't remember where he

2328
01:18:59,270 --> 01:18:58,800
was going i think he was trying to get

2329
01:19:03,110 --> 01:18:59,280
to

2330
01:19:04,550 --> 01:19:03,120
there was food i want it maybe about

2331
01:19:05,669 --> 01:19:04,560
walgreens he may have been a cvr it was

2332
01:19:07,510 --> 01:19:05,679
somewhere where there was food where he

2333
01:19:09,270 --> 01:19:07,520
thought there was food

2334
01:19:11,110 --> 01:19:09,280
and he got tired because he was trying

2335
01:19:14,229 --> 01:19:11,120
to swim through the water and it wasn't

2336
01:19:17,189 --> 01:19:14,239
during katrina that it wasn't water like

2337
01:19:18,229 --> 01:19:17,199
open ocean water it was muddy slimy

2338
01:19:20,870 --> 01:19:18,239
mucky

2339
01:19:22,470 --> 01:19:20,880
debris filled water so you're trying to

2340
01:19:24,390 --> 01:19:22,480
you're climbing over things

2341
01:19:26,149 --> 01:19:24,400
things are cutting you underwater things

2342
01:19:28,229 --> 01:19:26,159
are tugging on your clothes

2343
01:19:29,910 --> 01:19:28,239
and he's he's trying to get to this food

2344
01:19:31,830 --> 01:19:29,920
and he sees this raft

2345
01:19:33,430 --> 01:19:31,840
and he was in his mind he said to me it

2346
01:19:34,070 --> 01:19:33,440
was like look dude this is my first

2347
01:19:36,149 --> 01:19:34,080
break

2348
01:19:38,310 --> 01:19:36,159
i had gotten the whole day he was like

2349
01:19:39,750 --> 01:19:38,320
so i was relieved that i got a break

2350
01:19:42,870 --> 01:19:39,760
he's like i didn't really think that

2351
01:19:43,430 --> 01:19:42,880
okay this is weird he's like it was just

2352
01:19:45,590 --> 01:19:43,440
a rapture

2353
01:19:46,470 --> 01:19:45,600
i figured somebody created a raft with

2354
01:19:48,550 --> 01:19:46,480
some trees and

2355
01:19:50,630 --> 01:19:48,560
put a lamp on it and they were out

2356
01:19:52,630 --> 01:19:50,640
helping people he was like so this was

2357
01:19:54,229 --> 01:19:52,640
my opportunity after this rough day this

2358
01:19:55,270 --> 01:19:54,239
was my opportunity things were finally

2359
01:19:57,510 --> 01:19:55,280
gonna go well

2360
01:19:59,110 --> 01:19:57,520
so he spends pretty much all his energy

2361
01:20:01,510 --> 01:19:59,120
trying to get to it he gets 15 feet away

2362
01:20:04,630 --> 01:20:01,520
from it and it disappears

2363
01:20:05,590 --> 01:20:04,640
and he was emotional when i say

2364
01:20:09,669 --> 01:20:05,600
emotional

2365
01:20:10,790 --> 01:20:09,679
man sat in front of me and cried

2366
01:20:12,550 --> 01:20:10,800
he was like man you know that was the

2367
01:20:13,590 --> 01:20:12,560
worst time of my life he's like cause i

2368
01:20:15,510 --> 01:20:13,600
thought i was gonna die

2369
01:20:16,870 --> 01:20:15,520
he said he's fat in fact i knew i was

2370
01:20:18,470 --> 01:20:16,880
gonna die

2371
01:20:20,229 --> 01:20:18,480
and i said well you survived it he was

2372
01:20:22,470 --> 01:20:20,239
like yeah i survived it man but i

2373
01:20:24,070 --> 01:20:22,480
he's like you know i knew i was going to

2374
01:20:28,310 --> 01:20:24,080
die that night

2375
01:20:29,910 --> 01:20:28,320
so yeah that's the strangest thing that

2376
01:20:31,510 --> 01:20:29,920
um that i heard during katrina now there

2377
01:20:32,709 --> 01:20:31,520
was the banshee stories out of new

2378
01:20:35,110 --> 01:20:32,719
orleans east

2379
01:20:36,470 --> 01:20:35,120
there was the extremely large alligators

2380
01:20:37,990 --> 01:20:36,480
in the lower ninth ward

2381
01:20:39,750 --> 01:20:38,000
there were the sharks that people were

2382
01:20:43,270 --> 01:20:39,760
saying was swimming around the city

2383
01:20:45,510 --> 01:20:43,280
in the lower ninth ward um the banshee

2384
01:20:46,790 --> 01:20:45,520
has been something that an irish bayou

2385
01:20:47,990 --> 01:20:46,800
in new orleans has been

2386
01:20:50,310 --> 01:20:48,000
something that's been around for a long

2387
01:20:51,750 --> 01:20:50,320
time so i wasn't surprised when people

2388
01:20:52,950 --> 01:20:51,760
started talking about the banshee that

2389
01:20:54,149 --> 01:20:52,960
was something i was hearing about when i

2390
01:20:57,910 --> 01:20:54,159
was in high school

2391
01:20:59,270 --> 01:20:57,920
but that that raft was something that

2392
01:21:01,030 --> 01:20:59,280
i thought was actually for now i'm gonna

2393
01:21:01,510 --> 01:21:01,040
have six people tell you about the same

2394
01:21:03,110 --> 01:21:01,520
thing

2395
01:21:04,629 --> 01:21:03,120
i thought that was amazing i thought it

2396
01:21:05,270 --> 01:21:04,639
really was amazing because that means

2397
01:21:06,629 --> 01:21:05,280
that

2398
01:21:08,310 --> 01:21:06,639
and these i'm not talking about six

2399
01:21:10,950 --> 01:21:08,320
related people i'm talking about

2400
01:21:12,470 --> 01:21:10,960
six different people who came to me

2401
01:21:15,030 --> 01:21:12,480
through different

2402
01:21:17,270 --> 01:21:15,040
individuals who know me so none of these

2403
01:21:20,310 --> 01:21:17,280
people had a direct connection

2404
01:21:22,310 --> 01:21:20,320
to each other this was me reaching out

2405
01:21:24,709 --> 01:21:22,320
through my network of friends and saying

2406
01:21:26,229 --> 01:21:24,719
hey anybody had any crazy hurricane

2407
01:21:28,550 --> 01:21:26,239
katrina stories

2408
01:21:30,149 --> 01:21:28,560
and one person would say hey my cousin

2409
01:21:31,430 --> 01:21:30,159
was here after katrina another person

2410
01:21:32,390 --> 01:21:31,440
said well i was here other tree another

2411
01:21:34,470 --> 01:21:32,400
person would say

2412
01:21:35,669 --> 01:21:34,480
yeah my brother's my brother's brother

2413
01:21:37,990 --> 01:21:35,679
was i mean my

2414
01:21:38,950 --> 01:21:38,000
brother-in-law's brother was here during

2415
01:21:40,470 --> 01:21:38,960
katrina

2416
01:21:41,990 --> 01:21:40,480
and all those people came back with

2417
01:21:45,110 --> 01:21:42,000
those stories and they mentioned

2418
01:21:48,070 --> 01:21:45,120
that same thing yeah so

2419
01:21:48,390 --> 01:21:48,080
that's the best that that's another one

2420
01:21:53,110 --> 01:21:48,400
i

2421
01:21:55,430 --> 01:21:53,120
lot of stuff that went on down there but

2422
01:21:58,070 --> 01:21:55,440
i didn't hear about that one

2423
01:21:59,030 --> 01:21:58,080
that's almost like yeah yeah it's almost

2424
01:22:02,149 --> 01:21:59,040
like

2425
01:22:05,189 --> 01:22:02,159
uh an old 18

2426
01:22:07,030 --> 01:22:05,199
1800s river raft you know up the

2427
01:22:10,709 --> 01:22:07,040
mississippi or something that

2428
01:22:13,350 --> 01:22:10,719
you know but that's uh

2429
01:22:13,910 --> 01:22:13,360
well i bet that was frightening i know

2430
01:22:17,189 --> 01:22:13,920
that's scared

2431
01:22:21,430 --> 01:22:17,199
oh no he [\h__\h] man oh no that's

2432
01:22:23,189 --> 01:22:21,440
i mean man that that gentleman

2433
01:22:25,030 --> 01:22:23,199
that generally was one of the he was one

2434
01:22:28,390 --> 01:22:25,040
of the reasons why

2435
01:22:30,470 --> 01:22:28,400
i quickly started using um

2436
01:22:32,550 --> 01:22:30,480
and after that conversation with him i

2437
01:22:34,310 --> 01:22:32,560
really really started using nlp in my

2438
01:22:36,310 --> 01:22:34,320
conversations with people to pull them

2439
01:22:37,430 --> 01:22:36,320
back out of the emotional states

2440
01:22:39,430 --> 01:22:37,440
that i was putting them in because i

2441
01:22:40,950 --> 01:22:39,440
realized how irresponsible it was

2442
01:22:42,550 --> 01:22:40,960
because i know how to pull the emotions

2443
01:22:43,189 --> 01:22:42,560
out of a person i did years and years on

2444
01:22:45,030 --> 01:22:43,199
radio

2445
01:22:46,550 --> 01:22:45,040
and so i understand how to to stroke

2446
01:22:47,430 --> 01:22:46,560
emotions and stroke flames especially

2447
01:22:48,950 --> 01:22:47,440
when we do it

2448
01:22:50,070 --> 01:22:48,960
dealing with political topics like we

2449
01:22:51,270 --> 01:22:50,080
dealt with you know sometimes you got to

2450
01:22:52,950 --> 01:22:51,280
fire people up and you got to put the

2451
01:22:54,390 --> 01:22:52,960
fire out so i know how to fire people up

2452
01:22:56,229 --> 01:22:54,400
now how to pull out those emotions

2453
01:22:58,149 --> 01:22:56,239
but i was irresponsible and i wasn't

2454
01:23:00,870 --> 01:22:58,159
putting out that flame after i

2455
01:23:01,910 --> 01:23:00,880
ignited it and i realized after that

2456
01:23:03,910 --> 01:23:01,920
conversation with him

2457
01:23:05,510 --> 01:23:03,920
i have a responsibility that if i'm

2458
01:23:06,790 --> 01:23:05,520
going to bring that person back to that

2459
01:23:07,669 --> 01:23:06,800
moment in time when they had that

2460
01:23:09,350 --> 01:23:07,679
encounter

2461
01:23:11,590 --> 01:23:09,360
i have to be able to pull them back out

2462
01:23:12,149 --> 01:23:11,600
of it and so now when i talk to people

2463
01:23:14,390 --> 01:23:12,159
and

2464
01:23:15,270 --> 01:23:14,400
i dredge up an encounter or drudge up an

2465
01:23:17,990 --> 01:23:15,280
encounter

2466
01:23:18,870 --> 01:23:18,000
i pull them i put them in that situation

2467
01:23:21,030 --> 01:23:18,880
i watch or

2468
01:23:22,470 --> 01:23:21,040
listen to their emotions and their

2469
01:23:24,310 --> 01:23:22,480
tonality while they're there

2470
01:23:25,910 --> 01:23:24,320
and then after i'm after that i know

2471
01:23:27,830 --> 01:23:25,920
they've gotten too much i pull them back

2472
01:23:29,910 --> 01:23:27,840
out of it as fast as possible

2473
01:23:31,430 --> 01:23:29,920
and it's real simple to do you know you

2474
01:23:32,470 --> 01:23:31,440
lose verbal tap patterns like

2475
01:23:33,990 --> 01:23:32,480
non-sequentials

2476
01:23:36,390 --> 01:23:34,000
well you can say crazy stuff like purple

2477
01:23:38,709 --> 01:23:36,400
pigs fly backwards oh my god what's that

2478
01:23:41,110 --> 01:23:38,719
you say little things that just snap the

2479
01:23:43,510 --> 01:23:41,120
brain out of that emotional state

2480
01:23:44,149 --> 01:23:43,520
and it helps that person because they

2481
01:23:46,950 --> 01:23:44,159
actually

2482
01:23:48,390 --> 01:23:46,960
relive that encounter and now you guys

2483
01:23:50,070 --> 01:23:48,400
deal with witnesses all the time

2484
01:23:51,270 --> 01:23:50,080
and you know you can look at a person in

2485
01:23:52,870 --> 01:23:51,280
their eyes and see when they're reliving

2486
01:23:54,790 --> 01:23:52,880
that encounter based on how their eyes

2487
01:23:56,310 --> 01:23:54,800
kind of gloss and glaze over

2488
01:23:57,990 --> 01:23:56,320
it's like they're looking at you but

2489
01:23:59,990 --> 01:23:58,000
they're looking at the event

2490
01:24:01,350 --> 01:24:00,000
at the same time they're not there with

2491
01:24:04,310 --> 01:24:01,360
you 100

2492
01:24:05,990 --> 01:24:04,320
they look right through you so yeah and

2493
01:24:07,510 --> 01:24:06,000
you have to be responsible to those

2494
01:24:08,070 --> 01:24:07,520
people and that's another way you can

2495
01:24:09,430 --> 01:24:08,080
tell and

2496
01:24:11,110 --> 01:24:09,440
you can even tell it on the end of

2497
01:24:13,270 --> 01:24:11,120
during the phone conversation because

2498
01:24:14,870 --> 01:24:13,280
you can feel their attention during that

2499
01:24:17,430 --> 01:24:14,880
conversation kind of wane

2500
01:24:19,510 --> 01:24:17,440
and leave away as they're drifting off

2501
01:24:21,030 --> 01:24:19,520
to that spot of that encounter or

2502
01:24:22,629 --> 01:24:21,040
their mind is drifting to that space and

2503
01:24:23,669 --> 01:24:22,639
that's one of the easiest things to

2504
01:24:25,990 --> 01:24:23,679
detect

2505
01:24:26,950 --> 01:24:26,000
when someone's lying to me in particular

2506
01:24:29,270 --> 01:24:26,960
is because

2507
01:24:30,390 --> 01:24:29,280
if they're not drifting off and and

2508
01:24:32,390 --> 01:24:30,400
drifting away to that

2509
01:24:33,669 --> 01:24:32,400
i mean something that's rehearsed and

2510
01:24:34,950 --> 01:24:33,679
something that you know they sat there

2511
01:24:37,510 --> 01:24:34,960
and they literally rehearse

2512
01:24:38,950 --> 01:24:37,520
and you'll be amazed that circling back

2513
01:24:41,990 --> 01:24:38,960
the dog man

2514
01:24:45,189 --> 01:24:42,000
you would be amazed number of people

2515
01:24:46,390 --> 01:24:45,199
who have tried to feed me fake dog man

2516
01:24:50,070 --> 01:24:46,400
stories

2517
01:24:52,470 --> 01:24:50,080
um over the past six to eight months

2518
01:24:53,910 --> 01:24:52,480
just so they could turn around just so

2519
01:24:55,189 --> 01:24:53,920
they could turn around and say oh i fed

2520
01:24:56,950 --> 01:24:55,199
him this story

2521
01:24:58,790 --> 01:24:56,960
and discredited him and tried to

2522
01:25:01,189 --> 01:24:58,800
discredit me and you know

2523
01:25:02,390 --> 01:25:01,199
and the funniest thing to me is i tell

2524
01:25:04,709 --> 01:25:02,400
people all the time

2525
01:25:05,830 --> 01:25:04,719
how i determine if they're lying or not

2526
01:25:07,590 --> 01:25:05,840
but then i always catch them when

2527
01:25:08,790 --> 01:25:07,600
they're lying

2528
01:25:10,870 --> 01:25:08,800
and now we've gotten to the point to

2529
01:25:11,430 --> 01:25:10,880
where when it comes to dog man in

2530
01:25:12,790 --> 01:25:11,440
particular

2531
01:25:14,470 --> 01:25:12,800
nothing else when it comes to dog man

2532
01:25:15,830 --> 01:25:14,480
when i feel like someone's giving me a

2533
01:25:19,189 --> 01:25:15,840
bogus story

2534
01:25:21,270 --> 01:25:19,199
with the intent of um trying to get me

2535
01:25:23,270 --> 01:25:21,280
to put it out and

2536
01:25:24,870 --> 01:25:23,280
turn around and say oh well you know dog

2537
01:25:27,189 --> 01:25:24,880
waters puts out fake stories

2538
01:25:28,310 --> 01:25:27,199
oh man i tell them a new one i tell them

2539
01:25:29,590 --> 01:25:28,320
a new one

2540
01:25:30,629 --> 01:25:29,600
when it comes to that particular topic

2541
01:25:34,229 --> 01:25:30,639
because as you know the people are

2542
01:25:37,270 --> 01:25:34,239
fanatical about that topic they're crazy

2543
01:25:39,590 --> 01:25:37,280
it has it has exploded and you're right

2544
01:25:41,510 --> 01:25:39,600
the amount of the these stories on the

2545
01:25:44,790 --> 01:25:41,520
internet on youtube in particular

2546
01:25:46,790 --> 01:25:44,800
is just nuts uh

2547
01:25:48,310 --> 01:25:46,800
i you know you listen to some of that

2548
01:25:51,110 --> 01:25:48,320
stuff you know i have people send me

2549
01:25:53,830 --> 01:25:51,120
youtube videos all the time

2550
01:25:56,709 --> 01:25:53,840
for my opinion what you know what i

2551
01:25:58,870 --> 01:25:56,719
think about the story

2552
01:26:00,870 --> 01:25:58,880
it's just i don't know it's crazy it

2553
01:26:04,070 --> 01:26:00,880
really is it's crazy

2554
01:26:06,830 --> 01:26:04,080
and uh people over embellish stuff and

2555
01:26:12,390 --> 01:26:09,270
it's you know

2556
01:26:12,709 --> 01:26:12,400
well you know dw i our hours about up

2557
01:26:14,709 --> 01:26:12,719
and

2558
01:26:16,149 --> 01:26:14,719
man i i thank you for coming back on you

2559
01:26:17,830 --> 01:26:16,159
know we need to get you on here

2560
01:26:19,270 --> 01:26:17,840
we're changing our format a little bit

2561
01:26:21,430 --> 01:26:19,280
what we ought to do is just have you

2562
01:26:25,189 --> 01:26:21,440
come on here every once in a while

2563
01:26:27,750 --> 01:26:25,199
and just join us in our hour talk and uh

2564
01:26:29,830 --> 01:26:27,760
you know update us on what's going on in

2565
01:26:32,310 --> 01:26:29,840
your world

2566
01:26:34,310 --> 01:26:32,320
man you could picture me any in in and

2567
01:26:35,350 --> 01:26:34,320
come to me at any time i'm 100 on board

2568
01:26:37,189 --> 01:26:35,360
i love you guys

2569
01:26:38,629 --> 01:26:37,199
i love what you do all you gotta do is

2570
01:26:39,270 --> 01:26:38,639
let me know the day and time and i'm

2571
01:26:42,070 --> 01:26:39,280
here

2572
01:26:43,750 --> 01:26:42,080
um and i'm willing to do it and i really

2573
01:26:46,149 --> 01:26:43,760
appreciate the opportunity

2574
01:26:47,350 --> 01:26:46,159
um and in particular line you were one

2575
01:26:49,750 --> 01:26:47,360
of the guys who

2576
01:26:51,189 --> 01:26:49,760
started working with me very very early

2577
01:26:52,790 --> 01:26:51,199
and believed in me very early and gave

2578
01:26:55,590 --> 01:26:52,800
me the opportunity so i mean i'm

2579
01:26:57,430 --> 01:26:55,600
i'm more than happy to help you guys in

2580
01:26:58,790 --> 01:26:57,440
any way shape or form to participate in

2581
01:27:00,950 --> 01:26:58,800
any way shape or form

2582
01:27:01,830 --> 01:27:00,960
i mean i'm 100 on board as you already

2583
01:27:04,629 --> 01:27:01,840
know because we talk

2584
01:27:05,430 --> 01:27:04,639
behind the scenes you know how i am you

2585
01:27:08,310 --> 01:27:05,440
know exactly

2586
01:27:10,390 --> 01:27:08,320
well um hey anybody wants to get a whole

2587
01:27:12,470 --> 01:27:10,400
dark water to see what you do man

2588
01:27:14,070 --> 01:27:12,480
just go to youtube and and type in dark

2589
01:27:16,310 --> 01:27:14,080
orders and search it'll bring you right

2590
01:27:17,750 --> 01:27:16,320
there

2591
01:27:19,430 --> 01:27:17,760
you can find me and then you can email

2592
01:27:21,669 --> 01:27:19,440
me or you can call me

2593
01:27:23,910 --> 01:27:21,679
absolutely get a hold of him thanks

2594
01:27:25,990 --> 01:27:23,920
again man

2595
01:27:27,189 --> 01:27:26,000
thank you guys it was a pleasure our

2596
01:27:29,030 --> 01:27:27,199
pleasure i'll be keep

2597
01:27:31,350 --> 01:27:29,040
contacting we'll get you back on here

2598
01:27:33,669 --> 01:27:31,360
believe me

2599
01:27:35,510 --> 01:27:33,679
all right sounds like a plan thanks guys

2600
01:27:38,790 --> 01:27:35,520
thank you dark waters

2601
01:27:40,950 --> 01:27:38,800
dark waters folks man concludes a show

2602
01:27:44,830 --> 01:27:40,960
tonight where we've talked about

2603
01:27:47,910 --> 01:27:44,840
some pretty incredible things

2604
01:27:48,950 --> 01:27:47,920
yeah a lot of weird stuff and it only

2605
01:27:50,709 --> 01:27:48,960
gets you i'm glad he

2606
01:27:52,629 --> 01:27:50,719
i'm glad he took the time to talk about

2607
01:27:53,510 --> 01:27:52,639
all the stuff that was going on down in

2608
01:27:56,950 --> 01:27:53,520
new orleans

2609
01:27:59,669 --> 01:27:56,960
it blew my mind yeah

2610
01:28:00,149 --> 01:27:59,679
i i had heard so many weird things down

2611
01:28:03,270 --> 01:28:00,159
there

2612
01:28:06,310 --> 01:28:03,280
but you know it it just seemed that

2613
01:28:09,669 --> 01:28:06,320
when when katrina blew through there

2614
01:28:13,030 --> 01:28:09,679
it just woke up something and uh

2615
01:28:16,390 --> 01:28:13,040
you know i it's interesting i

2616
01:28:18,149 --> 01:28:16,400
when um when

2617
01:28:20,790 --> 01:28:18,159
a couple a lot of my friends went down

2618
01:28:22,470 --> 01:28:20,800
to new orleans to watch the super bowl

2619
01:28:25,669 --> 01:28:22,480
you know when the ravens were playing

2620
01:28:29,110 --> 01:28:25,679
the 49ers what was it 2012 or 13.

2621
01:28:30,950 --> 01:28:29,120
and uh some of the stories i got from

2622
01:28:33,510 --> 01:28:30,960
people that were down there

2623
01:28:34,870 --> 01:28:33,520
of you know seeing apparitions weird

2624
01:28:38,070 --> 01:28:34,880
things happening in their

2625
01:28:39,030 --> 01:28:38,080
hotel rooms strange stuff around the

2626
01:28:42,070 --> 01:28:39,040
superdome

2627
01:28:45,750 --> 01:28:42,080
it there was just a lot going on

2628
01:28:48,310 --> 01:28:45,760
and uh you know

2629
01:28:50,229 --> 01:28:48,320
it just seemed like he said it just woke

2630
01:28:51,910 --> 01:28:50,239
something up down there

2631
01:28:53,510 --> 01:28:51,920
so maybe we'll get him back on here

2632
01:28:56,709 --> 01:28:53,520
we'll talk some more about that

2633
01:28:57,669 --> 01:28:56,719
well i definitely think uh it's a show

2634
01:29:00,709 --> 01:28:57,679
topic

2635
01:29:01,430 --> 01:29:00,719
uh worthy of discussion uh the post

2636
01:29:04,470 --> 01:29:01,440
katrina

2637
01:29:06,229 --> 01:29:04,480
new orleans uh experience you know steve

2638
01:29:07,990 --> 01:29:06,239
foster in the chat says look it up or

2639
01:29:11,590 --> 01:29:08,000
fueled it

2640
01:29:12,149 --> 01:29:11,600
very true points but yeah we'll explore

2641
01:29:13,830 --> 01:29:12,159
that

2642
01:29:15,830 --> 01:29:13,840
on another show next week of course

2643
01:29:17,910 --> 01:29:15,840
we've got denise stoner

2644
01:29:19,350 --> 01:29:17,920
abductee and experiencer so that's going

2645
01:29:21,430 --> 01:29:19,360
to be an interesting program and then

2646
01:29:23,590 --> 01:29:21,440
the following week we start

2647
01:29:25,510 --> 01:29:23,600
the new and improved arcane radio we're

2648
01:29:28,550 --> 01:29:25,520
calling it season three

2649
01:29:31,750 --> 01:29:28,560
uh as we gear up to bring you

2650
01:29:33,910 --> 01:29:31,760
the best in alternative talk radio um

2651
01:29:35,669 --> 01:29:33,920
good show tonight guys some great uh

2652
01:29:38,910 --> 01:29:35,679
stories to feed off of i'm sure our

2653
01:29:40,550 --> 01:29:38,920
listeners will appreciate it uh

2654
01:29:42,629 --> 01:29:40,560
arcaneradio.com for the latest

2655
01:29:46,629 --> 01:29:42,639
information on the program

2656
01:29:48,870 --> 01:29:46,639
you can tweet at us at radio arcane

2657
01:29:50,070 --> 01:29:48,880
check us out on facebook arcane radio

2658
01:29:52,470 --> 01:29:50,080
show

2659
01:29:54,750 --> 01:29:52,480
you've got lon on facebook myself and go

2660
01:29:56,390 --> 01:29:54,760
to phantomsomemonsters.com

2661
01:29:59,030 --> 01:29:56,400
theforkshop.net

2662
01:30:03,430 --> 01:29:59,040
and uh butch go ahead and throw yours

2663
01:30:07,030 --> 01:30:06,070
you can go to our website at u4cop.com

2664
01:30:09,590 --> 01:30:07,040
or facebook

2665
01:30:10,709 --> 01:30:09,600
under you stop or ufo research center

2666
01:30:12,229 --> 01:30:10,719
pennsylvania

2667
01:30:14,229 --> 01:30:12,239
you four cop why the hell is that so

2668
01:30:16,790 --> 01:30:14,239
hard for me to remember but it is

2669
01:30:17,350 --> 01:30:16,800
every week i want to say off corp or or

2670
01:30:20,470 --> 01:30:17,360
whatever

2671
01:30:21,270 --> 01:30:20,480
so you have four cop so there you have

2672
01:30:23,030 --> 01:30:21,280
it folks

2673
01:30:24,790 --> 01:30:23,040
great show tonight with dark waters

2674
01:30:26,870 --> 01:30:24,800
we're so glad he was able to join us

2675
01:30:29,590 --> 01:30:26,880
butch always a pleasure lon

2676
01:30:30,310 --> 01:30:29,600
put a lot you guys make the show um what

2677
01:30:32,470 --> 01:30:30,320
it is

2678
01:30:33,430 --> 01:30:32,480
and each week we explore some of these

2679
01:30:36,709 --> 01:30:33,440
strange

2680
01:30:38,550 --> 01:30:36,719
and unusual topics until next week folks